Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:44 am  

He’s a dreadful captain though. I was stood behind the sticks yesterday and watched Ratchford after their first try. He was just looking at his feet, saying nothing other than whispering to Mikaele. Dufty and Vaughan were doing all the talking and trying to get a grip of things.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:10 am  

ratticusfinch wrote:

He’s a dreadful captain though. I was stood behind the sticks yesterday and watched Ratchford after their first try. He was just looking at his feet, saying nothing other than whispering to Mikaele. Dufty and Vaughan were doing all the talking and trying to get a grip of things.

Fair point so next Season we should go with Vaughan as captain obviously not Mikael and defo not dufty

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:24 am  

matt_wire wrote:

I've had enough of the Ratch-bashing on here this season. This isn't a go at you, Moe, yours is just the most recent post I've noticed. The lad has given an awful lot to the Wire over the years. He's done far more good than bad, sure he's been below par this year but then again so has the majority of the squad. There are others doing a far far worse job and stealing a living.

And no, I'm not his mum! He's been a bloody good servant overall.

but this is the problem we give too much credit to what a player has done previously not what he is doing for us now or will do in the future.

ratchford unfortunately for the majority of his time with us has caused coaches headaches of where to play him as he was not good enough in specialist rolls but too good to leave out of the side, whilst he is a very good rugby player I do feel he has caused us more headaches than solved problems over his time with us.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:42 am  

Not heard anything from chambers that gives me any hope, from letting the players come up with the game plan to bullock has to improve to get in the team when dudson gets in playing crap.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:56 am  

I mean if he had to play Dudson he could’ve also played Bullock and put Philbin/Nicholson/Currie loose forward or second row and dropped Crowther.

Selection should be based upon what they deliver on match day and I don’t care if Dudson or Crowther train the house down because what they dish up on match days is a LONG way short of SL level*. Bullock on the other hand has consistently played well for 18 months.

* and SL level is currently dire

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:01 pm  

gary numan wrote:

Not heard anything from chambers that gives me any hope, from letting the players come up with the game plan to bullock has to improve to get in the team when dudson gets in playing crap.

Chambers appears to be adopting Price's stance of being pally with the players, shielding them and stressing empathy whereas Powell tried the sergeant major approach.

Thus far, all I can see is that Gleeson's short stewardship appears to have freshened the attack, but the same glaring, unforced, stupid errors combined with baffling team selection hold us back.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:27 pm  

Thought you were the better team yesterday and the Walker dropped ball and Dufty needing longer arms and you win it comfortably.
The good thing for us was that we hung in and sneaked the 2 points.
Not sure what Dudson brings at all and the same goes for Crowther.
The other player I felt was a disappointment for you was Currie.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:53 pm  

The_runaround wrote:

but this is the problem we give too much credit to what a player has done previously not what he is doing for us now or will do in the future.

ratchford unfortunately for the majority of his time with us has caused coaches headaches of where to play him as he was not good enough in specialist rolls but too good to leave out of the side, whilst he is a very good rugby player I do feel he has caused us more headaches than solved problems over his time with us.

If that's the issue, blame the coaches who don't know how to deploy him. Or blame those who recruited him despite him not having a defined role in the squad. Or, if the issue is that he's past his best, blame those who still throw contracts at him. But for people to slag him off and say he isn't even a RL player is a bad thing to do for someone who's put his body on the line for our team/town for over a decade. Admittedly, we have several current players supposedly in their prime who do a shoddy job masquerading as professional RL players and we all know who they are. However, I'm not very comfortable calling someone out who has given his all for this club for so long. That's a different kettle of fish IMO. Sure if he's past his best move him on, but he shouldn't be disparaged when there are bigger wage thieves in the mix.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:20 pm  

gary numan wrote:

Not heard anything from chambers that gives me any hope, from letting the players come up with the game plan to bullock has to improve to get in the team when dudson gets in playing crap.

That team selection was so disappointing. We had an opportunity during the final six games to change things up, make players earn the shirt, but what do we do - keep the same team. There's a well peddled saying of the definition of madness being doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome, well in game one after the removal of DP, that's exactly what we've done. There was no way that I was paying out even a small amount of cash to watch the Leeds game, after the team was announced on Friday. Time to be brave with team selection Mr Chambers, otherwise, there wont be so many bums on seats in the HJS next year.

Re: Todays game v Leeds : Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:30 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

That team selection was so disappointing. We had an opportunity during the final six games to change things up, make players earn the shirt, but what do we do - keep the same team. There's a well peddled saying of the definition of madness being doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome, well in game one after the removal of DP, that's exactly what we've done. There was no way that I was paying out even a small amount of cash to watch the Leeds game, after the team was announced on Friday. Time to be brave with team selection Mr Chambers, otherwise, there wont be so many bums on seats in the HJS next year.

But what if the alternatives really are worse?