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Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:47 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Interesting how? It's such poor handling of it again by the RFL. They've let him off a significant ban on a technicality because the initial contact was slightly above the knee, despite acknowledging the bad intent and the danger to the ball carrier.

Asiata is going to end someone's career, if not disable them, if he keeps tackling like that. He's so reckless with it, just throws his shoulder and bodyweight through the leg, with no attempt to wrap the arms. Why does it have to take a lad getting his leg obliterated for the RFL to act on it? Why not just issue him a final warning via letter if they've tripped themselves up in their frameworks? Tell him to pack it in and change his technique.

i bet you used to love it when jason hooper was shoulder charging people in the head.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:52 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Interesting how? It's such poor handling of it again by the RFL. They've let him off a significant ban on a technicality because the initial contact was slightly above the knee, despite acknowledging the bad intent and the danger to the ball carrier.

Asiata is going to end someone's career, if not disable them, if he keeps tackling like that. He's so reckless with it, just throws his shoulder and bodyweight through the leg, with no attempt to wrap the arms. Why does it have to take a lad getting his leg obliterated for the RFL to act on it? Why not just issue him a final warning via letter if they've tripped themselves up in their frameworks? Tell him to pack it in and change his technique.

If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? We're not banning people for swinging arms that miss, or high tackles that 'almost' make contact with the head? There has to be a cut off point of contact that is acceptable, above the knee has been decided to be ok, so he can't be banned for it.

If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong.

It's clear that the entire town of St Helens want him chased out of the country for knocking them out of the Challenge Cup last year - the healthy thing is to let it go.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:34 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote: If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? We're not banning people for swinging arms that miss, or high tackles that 'almost' make contact with the head? There has to be a cut off point of contact that is acceptable, above the knee has been decided to be ok, so he can't be banned for it. If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong. It's clear that the entire town of St Helens want him chased out of the country for knocking them out of the Challenge Cup last year - the healthy thing is to let it go. . Absolutely well said Alffi_7. Saddo has had nothing to say about these:- Then this one when Charnley is nearly crippled. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725

Alffi_7 wrote: If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? We're not banning people for swinging arms that miss, or high tackles that 'almost' make contact with the head? There has to be a cut off point of contact that is acceptable, above the knee has been decided to be ok, so he can't be banned for it. If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong. It's clear that the entire town of St Helens want him chased out of the country for knocking them out of the Challenge Cup last year - the healthy thing is to let it go. . Absolutely well said Alffi_7. Saddo has had nothing to say about these:- Then this one when Charnley is nearly crippled. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:49 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do?

The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, ban him for that and the clear intent. They acknowledge the intent and the danger to the ball carrier and still decide to let him off. Even if they decide they can't ban him due to sticking religiously to the framework, just issue him a warning not to tackle like that. The puerile, childish reponses from the usual suspects on here just show how bitter some of you are towards Saints. It's hilarious when it's a Saints player out of the game for 9 months+ and spending 4 months struggling to walk, with no date for a return still. If it's Hayes' knee he points backwards or Ashton's or Lindop's career he ends? I suspect you won't find it as funny then.

Alffi_7 wrote:

If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong.

The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? Given the context as well, his first involvement against Saints since he injured four players in one game with it, and he goes straight for the knee of another player? It's odd that it's allowed in an age where the RFL is supposedly working to improve player welfare. Your opinions on it would do a 180 very quickly if it wasn't Saints, or if it was Saints tackling like that.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:54 pm  

Cokey wrote:

Then this one when Charnley is nearly crippled.

Grow up. They cleared that one as there is no head contact at all. The other Hurrell challenge he's been banned for. The fact a Saints player gets a ban or commits a bad challenge doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on Asiata. I get blindly defending your own players, I do it plenty, but you're wrong on this one. Asiata shouldn't be tackling like that.

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Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:02 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Grow up. They cleared that one as there is no head contact at all. The other Hurrell challenge he's been banned for. The fact a Saints player gets a ban or commits a bad challenge doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on Asiata. I get blindly defending your own players, I do it plenty, but you're wrong on this one. Asiata shouldn't be tackling like that.

No poop

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:30 pm  

Saddened! wrote: The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725

Saddened! wrote: The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:39 pm  

Cokey wrote: You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725 They looked at that as well and cleared it. If he gets banned for that, fine, there will be multiple questionable challenges in a game but there's a world of difference in the speed and aggression in that and what Asiata is doing. It's like showing a guy driving at 32 in a 30 in protest at him moaning about someone doing 70 into a bus stop. Asiata is just recklessly throwing his weight through the leg of the ball carrier, from an angle where the joint cannot bend. It's a really stupid way to tackle for his own health, but even more so for the ball carriers. Passi is still in a knee brace and it's coming up to a year since he did that to him. I don't see why you're defending him to this extent. Can you not see how idiotic it is, even generally, excluding the fact he chose to do it first challenge against us?

Cokey wrote: You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725 They looked at that as well and cleared it. If he gets banned for that, fine, there will be multiple questionable challenges in a game but there's a world of difference in the speed and aggression in that and what Asiata is doing. It's like showing a guy driving at 32 in a 30 in protest at him moaning about someone doing 70 into a bus stop. Asiata is just recklessly throwing his weight through the leg of the ball carrier, from an angle where the joint cannot bend. It's a really stupid way to tackle for his own health, but even more so for the ball carriers. Passi is still in a knee brace and it's coming up to a year since he did that to him. I don't see why you're defending him to this extent. Can you not see how idiotic it is, even generally, excluding the fact he chose to do it first challenge against us?

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:54 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

They looked at that as well and cleared it. If he gets banned for that, fine, there will be multiple questionable challenges in a game but there's a world of difference in the speed and aggression in that and what Asiata is doing. It's like showing a guy driving at 32 in a 30 in protest at him moaning about someone doing 70 into a bus stop. Asiata is just recklessly throwing his weight through the leg of the ball carrier, from an angle where the joint cannot bend. It's a really stupid way to tackle for his own health, but even more so for the ball carriers. Passi is still in a knee brace and it's coming up to a year since he did that to him. I don't see why you're defending him to this extent. Can you not see how idiotic it is, even generally, excluding the fact he chose to do it first challenge against us?

Asiata's tackle was on his thigh end of, no charge.

We'll be playing this next.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:26 pm  

We all know our six fingered neighbours are weird, but it does seem like they've decided to despise little old Leigh just for having the cheek to knock them out the cup last year. The same way they despise the ref who didn't gift them the final in 2019. I'm not saying they hold onto their grudges, but blimey they're bitter for such a successful lot.