Re: Yawnion World Cup : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:12 am  

Rugby Union World Cup Finals.

England played four, scored one try and that was by Jason Robinson. They kicked twelve penalties in those four games.

South Africa played three scored two tries both in the last fifteen minutes yesterday. They kicked sixteen penalties in the three games.

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 am  

Throw in a referee that's desperate to give penalties and you have an appalling to spectacle. I'm not being bitter, the best side definitely won but wow it was bad.

Rugby league is similar now, I appreciate that there is low risk rugby, but what we seen now is no risk rugby!

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:40 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Rugby Union World Cup Finals.

England played four, scored one try and that was by Jason Robinson. They kicked twelve penalties in those four games.

South Africa played three scored two tries both in the last fifteen minutes yesterday. They kicked sixteen penalties in the three games.

I've seen England play 3 Rugby League World Cup finals and I can only remember them scoring one try across 3 games (Paul Newlove!)...?

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:44 pm  

OK, GB and England aren't very good in World Cup finals.

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:40 am  

There will no doubt be a post-mortem after England's defeat in the final. What went wrong, where does English RU go from here.

This time I don't think the idea "we need to splash out big money to get some England-eligible RL players to cross codes" will not be high on the RFU agenda. Which might seem good news but is also a symptom that English RL is not in a great place.

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:15 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

There will no doubt be a post-mortem after England's defeat in the final. What went wrong, where does English RU go from here.

This time I don't think the idea "we need to splash out big money to get some England-eligible RL players to cross codes" will not be high on the RFU agenda. Which might seem good news but is also a symptom that English RL is not in a great place.

If you were a RL player and you had the choice of going to RU or NRL which would you choose?

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:21 am  

An 80 minute penalty shoot out ... with scrums

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:47 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Not a good weekend for GB or England with the quality of rugby on show in either code, or the results.

Agreed. RU final was terrible but GB v NZ pretty poor, too. Missed an opportunity there. All the more important that England find a team that can win OUR world cup in 2021.

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

If you were a RL player and you had the choice of going to RU or NRL which would you choose?

NRL without a shadow of doubt. Going to RU is a huge risk in terms of being able to adapt. I think if you're going to make a decision to cross codes, it has to be done at the start of a career. If you're in a RL academy team and a professional RU team comes in and offers you a good contract with first team options that aren't there in RL, then it makes more sense. It's worth the investment in time to learn a different game at that stage rather than going mid career when you want to be making an impact immediately and I think a lot of players don't make that impact because they struggle with the transition.

Going to NRL would be the ultimate experience in RL, if you came back to SL you would almost certainly come back a better more rounded player. I think it's great when more English players go over there and it will help the international team. I know people say its bad for the game to lose our best stars but look at France in football, the French league always sends its best stars to the elite leagues and their players are better for it.

Re: Yawnion World Cup : Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:41 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

NRL without a shadow of doubt. Going to RU is a huge risk in terms of being able to adapt. I think if you're going to make a decision to cross codes, it has to be done at the start of a career. If you're in a RL academy team and a professional RU team comes in and offers you a good contract with first team options that aren't there in RL, then it makes more sense. It's worth the investment in time to learn a different game at that stage rather than going mid career when you want to be making an impact immediately and I think a lot of players don't make that impact because they struggle with the transition.

Going to NRL would be the ultimate experience in RL, if you came back to SL you would almost certainly come back a better more rounded player. I think it's great when more English players go over there and it will help the international team. I know people say its bad for the game to lose our best stars but look at France in football, the French league always sends its best stars to the elite leagues and their players are better for it.

This reflects my own view on the subject. Crossing codes is a significant gamble for both parties. I don’t pay much attention to domestic RU but I can’t recall hearing much about Denny Solomona recently and he kept Charley out of Sale (I think), although for all I know he could be injured or have been playing in the World Cup!