War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:18 am  

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Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:23 am  

No Brainer it surely would be Burgess and Peet for head coaches in this assuming they would be up for it.

Hope this takes off because England v France all the time is currently a complete wash out. A lot of talk recently about the need to grow the game internationally, well this could be a stepping stone to generating more interest in the game here.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:41 am  

I'd welcome more RL and like the idea of this, but I'm not sure of whether it will work effectively.

Nothing against Cheshire, and yes I've moved on from pre-decimal currency, but I've always considered 'us' to be Warrington Lancashire, so the simplicity that benefits Yorkshire against Lancashire's complexity isn't an issue for me for something to get behind.

My concerns are that the most likely outcome is that it will be a lukewarm, half baked, unsupported event with Clubs pulling their star players rather than it being akin to a SOO rivalry, a chance to settle old scores or a proper international trial which of course would need a serious international 'scene' as the prize for the players involved.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:52 pm  

Potentially Wane may want Briers and Last as coaches as they are his England assistants…

On the concept itself, it’s been tried before and failed, but would probably be a better test than Eng v France - especially with an Ashes test at the end of the year. I’d take some convincing that this could be a long term option, as you say would need big buy in from the clubs (some seem to always pull players out), and players need to be incentivised.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:53 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I'd welcome more RL and like the idea of this, but I'm not sure of whether it will work effectively.

Nothing against Cheshire, and yes I've moved on from pre-decimal currency, but I've always considered 'us' to be Warrington Lancashire, so the simplicity that benefits Yorkshire against Lancashire's complexity isn't an issue for me for something to get behind.

My concerns are that the most likely outcome is that it will be a lukewarm, half baked, unsupported event with Clubs pulling their star players rather than it being akin to a SOO rivalry, a chance to settle old scores or a proper international trial which of course would need a serious international 'scene' as the prize for the players involved.

Needless to say I hope you are wrong on some of those points. I think we need this and we do need it to take off. If it becomes a SOO I think the players will want it.

Yes we live in Cheshire but the club was born in Lancashire.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:59 pm  

Just my opinion but I have absolutely no desire to see this dead horse flogged again.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:19 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Just my opinion but I have absolutely no desire to see this dead horse flogged again.

Jesus I’m starting to sound like Smiffy27 but are we not as you say flogging a dead horse now with how it is.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:40 pm  

Just to point out the club spent most of its life in Cheshire. Warrington RLFC moved to Wilderspool permanently in 1898 after playing there on and off during the early years. The county boundary was the river, and Wilderspool being south of this was always Cheshire (apart from a short period during the 20th century I think).

I actually like the fact that we are a slight anomaly. Being a bit further south and branded as Cheshire opens us up to an untapped fanbase new to RL, provided the marketing is right. You can't say the same as you head into the heartlands, where the club allegiances overlap.

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:45 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Just to point out the club spent most of its life in Cheshire. Warrington RLFC moved to Wilderspool permanently in 1898 after playing there on and off during the early years. The county boundary was the river, and Wilderspool being south of this was always Cheshire (apart from a short period during the 20th century I think).

I actually like the fact that we are a slight anomaly. Being a bit further south and branded as Cheshire opens us up to an untapped fanbase new to RL, provided the marketing is right. You can't say the same as you head into the heartlands, where the club allegiances overlap.

Those areas south of the river Latchford etc were moved into Lancashire in 1889 due to the majority of the town already being in Lancashire

Re: War of the Roses : Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:14 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Those areas south of the river Latchford etc were moved into Lancashire in 1889 due to the majority of the town already being in Lancashire

The boundary change was because of the construction of the Manchester Ship Canal which was has a much straighter course for a boundary than the River Mersey which meanders a lot..

The area of Warrington North of the Canal which had previously been in Cheshire was deemed to be in Lancashire.

The part of Warrington South of the Manchester Canal wasn`t allocated to Lancashire and hence that part of Warrington was still Cheshire.