Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:23 am  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Why don't they just participate in a Canadian league?....

Or an Australian one, if they really want to develop? That way they can tap into a vast market of players, rather than a dwindling one.

Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:30 pm  

Alan wrote:

Or an Australian one, if they really want to develop? That way they can tap into a vast market of players, rather than a dwindling one.

I take your point Alan but the shortest routes are:
- Toronto to Manchester - 3,416 miles with a flight time of nearly 8 hours and a time difference of 5 hours
- Toronto to Sydney is 9,663 miles with a flight time of 22 hours (with one stop in San Francisco or Vancouver - there are no direct flights). The time difference is 8 hours.

The above times do not of course include travel to the airport, 3 hour check-in requirements, baggage claim, customs clearance and travel to your destination accommodation.

The truth is that neither Australia nor the U.K. are practical locations to allow a Canadian team to have a rugby league team playing in.

Toronto can never have a stable team - there will be wholesale changes to their playing roster every year. How can it work with an English player spending a chunk of the year in Toronto and having a wife and kids (at school) in England.
The same applies to an Aussie, who even worse, will have to relocate in either Canada or England and then still spend a chunk of his time away from his family.

I have a fair bit of international travel experience because of work and being away from your family for weeks. Believe me the novelty wears very thin, very quickly.

Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:30 pm  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Why don't they just participate in a Canadian league?....

There isn't one. There's a handful of amateur teams (not Miners or East quality) dotted around on the west coast and in the Toronto area (Maple Leyther would have a more accurate knowledge on that area though) but nothing at a higher level anywhere in Canada.

Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:19 pm  

PlayTheBall wrote:

I take your point Alan but the shortest routes are:
- Toronto to Manchester - 3,416 miles with a flight time of nearly 8 hours and a time difference of 5 hours
- Toronto to Sydney is 9,663 miles with a flight time of 22 hours (with one stop in San Francisco or Vancouver - there are no direct flights). The time difference is 8 hours.

The above times do not of course include travel to the airport, 3 hour check-in requirements, baggage claim, customs clearance and travel to your destination accommodation.

The truth is that neither Australia nor the U.K. are practical locations to allow a Canadian team to have a rugby league team playing in.

Toronto can never have a stable team - there will be wholesale changes to their playing roster every year. How can it work with an English player spending a chunk of the year in Toronto and having a wife and kids (at school) in England.
The same applies to an Aussie, who even worse, will have to relocate in either Canada or England and then still spend a chunk of his time away from his family.

I have a fair bit of international travel experience because of work and being away from your family for weeks. Believe me the novelty wears very thin, very quickly.

I agree entirely. My comments about Australia, were very much tongue in cheek!

Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:20 pm  

Whatever deal Toronto have cut with SKY is their business , yes we might lose a couple of dozen off the attendance at ours who will prefer to spend their money on beer rather than a match ticket , but it will also mean a couple of thousand Leythers like myself who wouldn't have been going over to Canada will get to see the game live

Ultimately their connection to us is reducing with every new player they sign , I do expect them to get promoted this year and become SLs ' problem ' , we have plenty enough things to concern ourselves with to be bothered about them any more , time to move on

Re: Toronto : Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:24 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

Whatever deal Toronto have cut with SKY is their business , yes we might lose a couple of dozen off the attendance at ours who will prefer to spend their money on beer rather than a match ticket , but it will also mean a couple of thousand Leythers like myself who wouldn't have been going over to Canada will get to see the game live

Ultimately their connection to us is reducing with every new player they sign , I do expect them to get promoted this year and become SLs ' problem ' , we have plenty enough things to concern ourselves with to be bothered about them any more , time to move on

It is their business, but as a club we need to be looking at alternative packages. As a Club we are back to Déjà vu. Back to square one.

The Club needs to seriously get motivated and start looking at alternatives rather than a cheque from Super League.

Déjà vu Starbug.

Re: Toronto : Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:01 am  

atomic wrote:

It is their business, but as a club we need to be looking at alternative packages. As a Club we are back to Déjà vu. Back to square one.

The Club needs to seriously get motivated and start looking at alternatives rather than a cheque from Super League.

Déjà vu Starbug.

Yes we do , but that will require a period of financial stability , a long term ' plan ' and a will to look beyond the playing budget as the be all and end all of running a sporting business

Re: Toronto : Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:37 am  

GUBRATS wrote:

Yes we do , but that will require a period of financial stability , a long term ' plan ' and a will to look beyond the playing budget as the be all and end all of running a sporting business

How can they have a long term plan with the current owner still in place? Will he prevent a Saturday night game v Toronto? Under Sky cameras?

No! We need all we can get, so market it to hell now. < Thats Leighs purse..

Lets not not forget the Ourleague app.. Nail it. Don't wait. < Thats more money in Leighs purse..

Take the negatives and turn them into positives.

But for god sake stop using history as an answer.

Re: Toronto : Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:00 am  

atomic wrote:

How can they have a long term plan with the current owner still in place? Will he prevent a Saturday night game v Toronto? Under Sky cameras?

No! We need all we can get, so market it to hell now. < Thats Leighs purse..

Lets not not forget the Ourleague app.. Nail it. Don't wait. < Thats more money in Leighs purse..

Take the negatives and turn them into positives.

But for god sake stop using history as an answer.

Not going to lay the lack of long term planning at Derek's door , as long as I can recall no owner has ever taken that course

Essentially we get £ 200K to compensate for that sat 7 pm kick off , although for me from April to the end of the season sat 6 pm would already be my kick off time

As I don't do ' apps ' I'll happily agree without really knowing or caring

Re: Toronto : Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:37 am  

GUBRATS wrote:

Whatever deal Toronto have cut with SKY is their business , yes we might lose a couple of dozen off the attendance at ours who will prefer to spend their money on beer rather than a match ticket , but it will also mean a couple of thousand Leythers like myself who wouldn't have been going over to Canada will get to see the game live

Ultimately their connection to us is reducing with every new player they sign , I do expect them to get promoted this year and become SLs ' problem ' , we have plenty enough things to concern ourselves with to be bothered about them any more , time to move on

Any deal struck between any Championship club and Sky is our absolutely our business too.
Just as the televised games in Premiership football are everyone’s business who plays in that league. The difference is that the football governing body has real influence and applies common sense over what happens in that sport.
I have already said what I think of our governing body.