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atomic wrote:
There is no limit in Champ at present.. Not sure what has been briefed out. Possibly only 12 month contracts available on imports. Could be dispensation on promotion. SL2 may carry different laws to SL1 as technically they are now.

All seems very predictable there will be 2 leagues of ten. Under different laws.


Good point.
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Cokey wrote:
Good point.


It’s a good point in as SL2 become feeder to SL1..
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I cannot see how 2 leagues of 10 will work, and the teams that come down could be devastated to the point of no return.

RL needs a shake up, but 2X14 teams with 2 up and 2 down has by far the best balance for me. I cannot see how we can have 20 FT teams who could substantially hold their own in todays economic climate.

If it does go to 2X10, I am really interested on how it will be introduced as it should be 3 down and 1 up. If it ends up being 2 down and the Champ GF winners playing SL 10th side, how could that be fair ? I wouldnt bother spending my cash this year if this was the case.
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Snowy wrote:
I cannot see how 2 leagues of 10 will work, and the teams that come down could be devastated to the point of no return.

RL needs a shake up, but 2X14 teams with 2 up and 2 down has by far the best balance for me. I cannot see how we can have 20 FT teams who could substantially hold their own in todays economic climate.

If it does go to 2X10, I am really interested on how it will be introduced as it should be 3 down and 1 up. If it ends up being 2 down and the Champ GF winners playing SL 10th side, how could that be fair ? I wouldnt bother spending my cash this year if this was the case.


Not sure how 2 x 14 clubs shakes the game up. There would be clubs still sat in their comfort zones. The whole point of 2 leagues of 10 is to improve the profile of the game. Make SL1 elite, make SL2 a viable option for other broadcasters.

At the end of the day if things don't change, the sport will fail. Its far easier to support 20 clubs than 28. That may sound harsh, but too many have again sat in their comfort zones protected financially from central funding without improvement. That's at all levels.

The game needs to progress, in order to survive. Casualties as with all sport are inevitable, but its not the end of the sport.
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Not sure how 2 x 14 clubs shakes the game up. There would be clubs still sat in their comfort zones. The whole point of 2 leagues of 10 is to improve the profile of the game. Make SL1 elite, make SL2 a viable option for other broadcasters.

At the end of the day if things don't change, the sport will fail. Its far easier to support 20 clubs than 28. That may sound harsh, but too many have again sat in their comfort zones protected financially from central funding without improvement. That's at all levels.

The game needs to progress, in order to survive. Casualties as with all sport are inevitable, but its not the end of the sport.


I get that Tommy, but the 20 clubs need to be FT in order for it to work and thrive. If thats not the criteria, that wont work. I feel 20 is asking too much. SL2 (as you call it) cannot be a league of PT teams. Defeats the object.

As for the fixtures, just the 18 ? or more loop da loop fixtures which turn the league season into a mockery.

The 14 Teams would be balanced with more relegated. Currently its 1:12. With 2 relegated, it would be 1:7, and enough to get most teams attention (ie) comfort zones !
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Snowy wrote:
I get that Tommy, but the 20 clubs need to be FT in order for it to work and thrive. If thats not the criteria, that wont work. I feel 20 is asking too much. SL2 (as you call it) cannot be a league of PT teams. Defeats the object.

As for the fixtures, just the 18 ? or more loop da loop fixtures which turn the league season into a mockery.

The 14 Teams would be balanced with more relegated. Currently its 1:12. With 2 relegated, it would be 1:7, and enough to get most teams attention (ie) comfort zones !


Fair comment Snowy. I think to avoid the loop fixture boredom other competitions could be added again Yorkshire/ Lancashire, BBC floodlight. Less funding from SKY now opens the door to other things.

If SL complete the required amount of televised games, they will no longer be dictated by SKY. Something that has held the sport back. As said many times the saviour of the sport will become the downfall of it.
It has taken a long time for some to realise that.

SKY reducing funding has opened the game up to other broadcasters as we are seeing. That could be the way to financially support the 5 or so PT clubs forcing them to go FT.

I totally agree with what you say around PT clubs playing in SL2. But if the sport can and should generate more money in the sport then the wages should also rise to accommodate the PT players. That is then left to the players choice to continue playing or return to a lower tier.
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