Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

If you insert the ' could ' word into RL with regards serious injury , you might as well outlaw the sport now , everybody walking onto a pitch knows he could get seriously injured , it's the ones who go onto the pitch happy to injure I worry about , and who we need to get rid of

Every tackle has the potential for injury

Just look how hard those evil Huddersfield players were tackling our poor boys on Friday!

Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:09 pm  

Snowy wrote:

Can't defend it!

Nope,and niether should the Club..Goodnight Jamie.

Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:36 pm  

No surprise based on his disciplinary record with the RFL(on that can anyone remember a bad Acton tackle - anyone able to put down what he's been banned for this season as I can't remember anything where he has broke a nose, knocked teeth out or concussed players - yet he has seen his team mates recieve these injuries with no bans for those that caused it...).
RE: 'What if' scenarios, if we are going down that road then expect a lot of 'ambulance chasing' lawyers to be involved when players retire as in essence the sport will find it hard to define 99% of the actions on a sports field as not having potential to cause injury(accidental or otherwise).

Who was on the disciplinary tonight?

Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:46 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

If you insert the ' could ' word into RL with regards serious injury , you might as well outlaw the sport now , everybody walking onto a pitch knows he could get seriously injured , it's the ones who go onto the pitch happy to injure I worry about , and who we need to get rid of

Absolutely the game is tough enough- and yes any player Could potentially be injured- so why would any player grab another who had appeared to sustain a head injury in that manner - But Greg bird was "sparked out" on the floor as far as Acton was concerned. Watching on tv it appeared that way to me.
What ifs is exactly what should be looked at - the welfare of players should be absolutely paramount- yes they are paid- bu they do it for entertainment!

Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:34 pm  

JENKY wrote:

No surprise based on his disciplinary record with the RFL(on that can anyone remember a bad Acton tackle - anyone able to put down what he's been banned for this season as I can't remember anything where he has broke a nose, knocked teeth out or concussed players - yet he has seen his team mates recieve these injuries with no bans for those that caused it...).
RE: 'What if' scenarios, if we are going down that road then expect a lot of 'ambulance chasing' lawyers to be involved when players retire as in essence the sport will find it hard to define 99% of the actions on a sports field as not having potential to cause injury(accidental or otherwise).

Who was on the disciplinary tonight?

HHJ Chris Batty, Graeme Hallas & Russ Bridge

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Re: Jamie Acton : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:45 pm  

jools wrote:

I think the key here is not what injury was done by Acton - but what injury COULD have already been done prior to what he did and how acton's actions could have impacted on that.
Two rugby players have lost their lives in the last 12 months to accidental head injuries. Imagine if he'd have done that in a similar situation. Imagine if Bird had, for instance, cracked a neck vertebrae in the previous collision - what Acton did COULD have had a massive impact as he had no way of knowing the extent of birds injuries before he did what he did. He's lucky it's just 9- and I reckon Leigh expected this given they spent all that time preparing.

This.

Re: Jamie Acton : Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:44 am  

The Watcher believes that the club must fine Acton the maximum amount they can.

Re: Jamie Acton : Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:26 am  

Inked in as sub. for million pound game?

Re: Jamie Acton : Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:05 am  

jools wrote:

Absolutely the game is tough enough- and yes any player Could potentially be injured- so why would any player grab another who had appeared to sustain a head injury in that manner - But Greg bird was "sparked out" on the floor as far as Acton was concerned. Watching on tv it appeared that way to me.
What ifs is exactly what should be looked at - the welfare of players should be absolutely paramount- yes they are paid- bu they do it for entertainment!

While you are obviously quite correct on your potential for further injury comments, I have to contest the "sparked out" remark !

IMHO Bird was never "sparked out", he was moving, he had both arms in the air & it is a widely held rumour that Bird told Acton to F.O while prostrate on the floor !
Furthermore, if Bird was "sparked out" from a head injury/concussion, why did he return to be influential & play better than he had pre 'injury' & why exactly was he allowed to return. I feel that the answer may be that he was 'NEVER' injured & was trying to deflect from his late hit on our kicker & 6 Ben Reynolds who was indeed 'actually injured.

There can be no denying that Acton deserved a ban, however how does Actons 9 SL match ban possibly compare to the 10 match ban served by Ben Flower for the outrageous & callous attack on Lance Hohaia who suffered very 'real' injury as a result ?

I dont think that many Leigh fans would be too aggrieved to see Acton receive 6 or 7 matches but 9 compared to Flowers 10 + 1 WCC is to be quite frank, ludicrous.

Re: Jamie Acton : Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:26 am  

Alan wrote:

He was guilty - no question of that - but NINE matches? The only player injured in the incident was the one he was misguidedly attempting to avenge.

The process seems to place far more emphasis on "potential to cause injury", rather than actually causing injury. I'm afraid we need to offload Jamie now, for our own good, and probably his. (I wonder what his punishments would be at another club? )

Definitely don't agree! I commend him for 'looking out' for his halfback if however, he has perhaps gone about it in a clumsy way. I've said before he is not receiving the same 'justice' as some of the more villainous players in the game, (I include Greg Bird in These). Jamie is the only Leigh player who would get into every other Super League team so to release him, would be unwise. I know supporters are frustrated by his continually suspensions however, he is a tremendous young British prop forward and I personally hope the club stands by him.