Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:36 am  

Ste100Centurions wrote:

Wait until NYC join & we have to go through the whole charade again !!!

No chance, or there should not be, how can anyone say that the Toronto experiment has worked or not, it needs more than two seasons to evaluate both the plus and any detrimental factors that Toronto bring to the game IN THIS COUNTRY, a minimum of 6 years should be allowed to pass to make a judgenent.

Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:48 pm  

Harry Stottle wrote:

No chance, or there should not be, how can anyone say that the Toronto experiment has worked or not, it needs more than two seasons to evaluate both the plus and any detrimental factors that Toronto bring to the game IN THIS COUNTRY, a minimum of 6 years should be allowed to pass to make a judgenent.

I am sure 'the experiment' is suiting Toronto just fine.
They are making all the calls regarding the farcical fixture list, ridiculous travel arrangements, TV coverage (including resulting revenue losses) and seemingly limitless numbers of Brits and Aussies in their ranks.
Visiting support and revenue from Toronto non existent - their fans turn up in a taxi.
The only clubs inconvenienced by it are ALL of the other 13 clubs in the Championship.

In my view this 'mad experiment' is simply unsustainable.

Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:19 pm  

PlayTheBall wrote:

I am sure 'the experiment' is suiting Toronto just fine.
They are making all the calls regarding the farcical fixture list, ridiculous travel arrangements, TV coverage (including resulting revenue losses) and seemingly limitless numbers of Brits and Aussies in their ranks.
Visiting support and revenue from Toronto non existent - their fans turn up in a taxi.
The only clubs inconvenienced by it are ALL of the other 13 clubs in the Championship.

In my view this 'mad experiment' is simply unsustainable.

Again I totally agree. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:53 pm  

Cokey wrote:

Cheers Ian, I think Toronto will be promoted this year,and i think we will go well challenging for that top 5. Iv'e always liked Andy Ackers Ian, I would have him here at Leigh no doubt. I'm really looking forward to tomorrow and some good performances from the players, irrespective of the result.

Keep your eye on Dec O'Donnell here, twice the player Ackers will ever be

Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:19 pm  

PlayTheBall wrote:

I am sure 'the experiment' is suiting Toronto just fine.
They are making all the calls regarding the farcical fixture list, ridiculous travel arrangements, TV coverage (including resulting revenue losses) and seemingly limitless numbers of Brits and Aussies in their ranks.
Visiting support and revenue from Toronto non existent - their fans turn up in a taxi.
The only clubs inconvenienced by it are ALL of the other 13 clubs in the Championship.

In my view this 'mad experiment' is simply unsustainable.

Apart from the actual travelling that most clubs will only have to make once they have little adverse impact on anybody really , yes there won't be any away fans at the LSV and we might lose a couple of dozen ' casual homers ' due to the televising , but that is offset for me by being able to watch our away match in Toronto

They will probably be out of our hair by next year

As for NY ? , well itll be interesting to see what the RFL say they have to do , and what Mr Elstone and the SL bosses decide is the best way

With the collaboration between SKY and Toronto dropping a new NY club straight into a licenced/franchised SL could give them ( depending on Toulouse as well ) a new time slot for 2 games every Saturday as well as the 2 English based games

Re: Toronto : Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:20 pm  

maurice wrote:

Keep your eye on Dec O'Donnell here, twice the player Ackers will ever be

I will.

Re: Toronto : Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:12 pm  

PlayTheBall wrote:

I am sure 'the experiment' is suiting Toronto just fine.
They are making all the calls regarding the farcical fixture list, ridiculous travel arrangements, TV coverage (including resulting revenue losses) and seemingly limitless numbers of Brits and Aussies in their ranks.
Visiting support and revenue from Toronto non existent - their fans turn up in a taxi.
The only clubs inconvenienced by it are ALL of the other 13 clubs in the Championship.

In my view this 'mad experiment' is simply unsustainable.

Thought you might like to view the 2018 Championship attendance figures-home teams against Toronto

Eight clubs had above their average attendance at home against Toronto including Leigh 5,452 who's average was 3,539-the others were Toulouse-Featherstone-Halifax-Barrow-Batley-London-Sheffield-only Dewsbury-Swinton-Rochdale had less

So it seems they are attracting fans to attend Rugby League matches in this country from somewhere

The TV deal with Sky is the same as they had with Premier Sports for the two previous seasons and allows fans of all Championship clubs in the UK to watch the away fixture in Toronto and I with very many other Leigh fans will be watching this match on TV

Re: Toronto : Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:57 pm  

scrum wrote:

Thought you might like to view the 2018 Championship attendance figures-home teams against Toronto

Eight clubs had above their average attendance at home against Toronto including Leigh 5,452 who's average was 3,539-the others were Toulouse-Featherstone-Halifax-Barrow-Batley-London-Sheffield-only Dewsbury-Swinton-Rochdale had less

So it seems they are attracting fans to attend Rugby League matches in this country from somewhere

The TV deal with Sky is the same as they had with Premier Sports for the two previous seasons and allows fans of all Championship clubs in the UK to watch the away fixture in Toronto and I with very many other Leigh fans will be watching this match on TV

Yes you are correct with the Leigh attendance v Toronto but if you are quoting that in Toronto's favour it is also worth noting that it was over 1,000 less than the previous seasons average, considering it was the first game of the season that is quite relevant, if there were 100 TWP fans in attendance I would be very surprised.

Re: Toronto : Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:03 pm  

Harry Stottle wrote:

Yes you are correct with the Leigh attendance v Toronto but if you are quoting that in Toronto's favour it is also worth noting that it was over 1,000 less than the previous seasons average, considering it was the first game of the season that is quite relevant, if there were 100 TWP fans in attendance I would be very surprised.

I am merely pointing out that eight teams in the Championship had gates above their average against Toronto-were those extra fans reside matters not-it was an increase above their average revenue-even though live on TV.

Re: Toronto : Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:29 pm  

scrum wrote:

I am merely pointing out that eight teams in the Championship had gates above their average against Toronto-were those extra fans reside matters not-it was an increase above their average revenue-even though live on TV.

Indeed it was , but expect it to change this season