: Thu May 07, 2009 10:48 pm  

imleythbenter wrote: this whole 'who owns the stadium/village' is becoming another de ja vu thread on here. its well documented who owns it http://www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/Enviro ... illage.htm However that list has changed due to certain circumstances. The LSV stadium company runs it but because the project stalled at the last minute the council bailed it out, and there the problems began as it then had to turn into a 'cash cow' so that the rate payers of the borough get their money back, and the present LSV management was put in place. Pray suggest what alternative Leigh Centurions had? Grundy Hill were making 'selling noises' for the last few years. Free samples? no such animal, all these 'free entries' still need to be 'policed' and that costs money, now suggest who pays, don't mention sponsorship as in these hard financial times sponsorship budgets in business are down, my own for example to ZERO so I am forced to use my own which I have put aside for retirement to honour my this year sponsorship promises, of next year??? who knows but at this stage NIL and I think I will not be alone, that is the financial reality not only in a business like mine but in the 'blue chip' companies also (just take a look around your local high street if I'm not to be believed).. Leigh Centurions being a partner in the LSV of which I'm informed Leigh Genises no longer are, get a reduction in rental terms. but unfortunately the 'terms' are based on the other stadium in the borough, something that whilst unfair and unrealistic has been put into place, and talks go on at length but without any sort of conciliation as the LSV management appear to be unbendingI'm sure if you ask Mr Chairman who's own arguments with the LSV company are 'legendary' he will lessen your confusion. My own question to the powers that be was that we (the people of Leigh) were promised a debt free sports village, is that now still the case? Its all a 'merry-go-round' without the fun of the fair. Thanks for this. Still unsure about the ownership (or "partners"), maybe this will be more clear when the AGM is announced and they are all together. Also not sure that Grundy Hill "'selling noises' for the last few years" is a gun to our heads to sign anything to use new stadium no matter what contract says IMO.

imleythbenter wrote: this whole 'who owns the stadium/village' is becoming another de ja vu thread on here. its well documented who owns it http://www.wigan.gov.uk/Services/Enviro ... illage.htm However that list has changed due to certain circumstances. The LSV stadium company runs it but because the project stalled at the last minute the council bailed it out, and there the problems began as it then had to turn into a 'cash cow' so that the rate payers of the borough get their money back, and the present LSV management was put in place. Pray suggest what alternative Leigh Centurions had? Grundy Hill were making 'selling noises' for the last few years. Free samples? no such animal, all these 'free entries' still need to be 'policed' and that costs money, now suggest who pays, don't mention sponsorship as in these hard financial times sponsorship budgets in business are down, my own for example to ZERO so I am forced to use my own which I have put aside for retirement to honour my this year sponsorship promises, of next year??? who knows but at this stage NIL and I think I will not be alone, that is the financial reality not only in a business like mine but in the 'blue chip' companies also (just take a look around your local high street if I'm not to be believed).. Leigh Centurions being a partner in the LSV of which I'm informed Leigh Genises no longer are, get a reduction in rental terms. but unfortunately the 'terms' are based on the other stadium in the borough, something that whilst unfair and unrealistic has been put into place, and talks go on at length but without any sort of conciliation as the LSV management appear to be unbendingI'm sure if you ask Mr Chairman who's own arguments with the LSV company are 'legendary' he will lessen your confusion. My own question to the powers that be was that we (the people of Leigh) were promised a debt free sports village, is that now still the case? Its all a 'merry-go-round' without the fun of the fair. Thanks for this. Still unsure about the ownership (or "partners"), maybe this will be more clear when the AGM is announced and they are all together. Also not sure that Grundy Hill "'selling noises' for the last few years" is a gun to our heads to sign anything to use new stadium no matter what contract says IMO.

: Thu May 07, 2009 11:00 pm  

Leeeigh Leeeigh wrote:

Thanks for this.

Still unsure about the ownership (or "partners"), maybe this will be more clear when the AGM is announced and they are all together.

Also not sure that Grundy Hill "'selling noises' for the last few years" is a gun to our heads to sign anything to use new stadium no matter what contract says IMO.

A gun was put to our heads , but not by Grundy Hill

It was the council , they made it quite plain that if we did not agree to sign up blind they would make things very difficult for us to continue at Hilton Park with regards H and S and safety certificates

: Fri May 08, 2009 7:38 am  

Starbug wrote:

A gun was put to our heads , but not by Grundy Hill

It was the council , they made it quite plain that if we did not agree to sign up blind they would make things very difficult for us to continue at Hilton Park with regards H and S and safety certificates

What you are basically saying is we had no say in whether we play at new stadium or not and would be charged whatever, and had no control over our decision making regarding stadium.
I'm sure MP for Leigh and councilors would not want to lose votes on something like this if brought to their attention via media etc.
What you are basically saying is we had no say in whether we play at new stadium or not and would be charged whatever, and had no control over our decision making regarding stadium.
I think we thought the stadium was last piece of jigsaw for admittance to SL.

: Fri May 08, 2009 11:37 am  

It was never the last piece only the first, I am and always have been anti-LSV, not because of the stadium or the LSV company but because IMO it will be another nail in the coffin of Leigh RFC, realistically we cant afford to play and have office space at the LSV unless the council step in and have realistic prices, I was in on a conversation with Alan and our Dave with a certain head coach of a Champ 1 team and he was horrified at what we are rumoured to be paying and his teams stadium is bigger than ours, granted their average crowd is far less than ours too.

Crilly Park with in 5 years, if we are still around (In fact if RL is still around)

: Fri May 08, 2009 11:40 am  

Just an aside I was told that the LSV partners have never met nor do they plan to.

: Fri May 08, 2009 12:18 pm  

FredParky wrote:

Just an aside I was told that the LSV partners have never met nor do they plan to.

Thats what is still confusing to me regarding ownership. of the stadium.
Suppose we all had a collection and made an offer to buy. Who do we make offer to ?

Also point I am trying to make is a couple of years ago it was popular opinion (and still is among some) that the stadium would get us in SL. Did we sign for the stadium (no matter what the cost was) because we thought we would get in, and no thought on if we didn't as such.

: Fri May 08, 2009 2:56 pm  

No choice re moving from HP (see Starbugs post) and the only other alternative was doing a Swinton, now that would have been the end.

: Fri May 08, 2009 7:04 pm  

Will this help? http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/rec ... ?job_id=16

Will this help? http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/rec ... ?job_id=16

: Fri May 08, 2009 7:11 pm  

I shouldn't laugh http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/abo ... about_id=2

I shouldn't laugh http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/abo ... about_id=2

: Fri May 08, 2009 8:57 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote: Will this help? http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/rec ... ?job_id=16 Well only another £ 600 per week to find to clear his/her salary Just what exactly is this person going to ' sell ' to bring £ 600 plus in to the place ? Or another pointless admin job paid for by you and me ?

Alexs Dad wrote: Will this help? http://www.leighsportsvillage.co.uk/rec ... ?job_id=16 Well only another £ 600 per week to find to clear his/her salary Just what exactly is this person going to ' sell ' to bring £ 600 plus in to the place ? Or another pointless admin job paid for by you and me ?