Re: Poor crowd : Fri May 26, 2023 9:39 pm  

Nor do we need a freight train to deliver tries and wins.

Best win of the year for Bongser who is also delighted for Powell's rejects, tries aside. Full marks to Adrian Lam.

Re: Poor crowd : Fri May 26, 2023 10:21 pm  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Nor do we need a freight train to deliver tries and wins.

Best win of the year for Bongser who is also delighted for Powell's rejects, tries aside. Full marks to Adrian Lam.

Agreed, even bigger than Saints

Re: Poor crowd : Sat May 27, 2023 12:43 am  

I respect everyones opinions, especially those who have spent so many years supporting our club but,
As long as Derek is in charge, I am 100% certain we will always play in Leigh. Our next move, if there is one, will be when we are filling the LSV every week and losing revenue because it simply isn’t big enough. Will that happen, likely not, but it for me is more likely than Leigh playing regular home games outside of our town.
I also don’t see a merged code game as the way forward or likely at all. The only way that happens is if the rugby world stage goes that route, and that is never going to happen.
As for a brand, it is all about instant recognition based on a visual and, or, a single word/phrase. With that instant recognition comes more fans and a greater revenue from all the various sources. Can a brand be successfully moved, yes, but ours is intrinsically linked to the loyalty of our town/fans, and the most passionate of those fans is our owner.

Re: Poor crowd : Sat May 27, 2023 8:44 am  

VL it will happen eventually. The financial situation and TV deals will demand it but as I say, the influence of our RL legends, who have regrettably been lost to our game, is already speeding Union up and over time as more tweaks are made Union will have evolved to the point where there won't be much difference between the 2 codes and the natural progression will be to merge back to one code of Rugby. It isn't going to happen overnight, maybe 10 or 15 years, but it will happen. Both codes are suffering financially and if SKY drop League or cut our funds drastically many League clubs will struggle to survive. And, as I've said, nearly all of the Union clubs are millions of pounds in debt. They've only got 10 clubs in the Premiership next season once London Irish go under.

Re: Poor crowd : Sat May 27, 2023 7:28 pm  

WYSIWYG2 wrote:

VL it will happen eventually. The financial situation and TV deals will demand it but as I say, the influence of our RL legends, who have regrettably been lost to our game, is already speeding Union up and over time as more tweaks are made Union will have evolved to the point where there won't be much difference between the 2 codes and the natural progression will be to merge back to one code of Rugby. It isn't going to happen overnight, maybe 10 or 15 years, but it will happen. Both codes are suffering financially and if SKY drop League or cut our funds drastically many League clubs will struggle to survive. And, as I've said, nearly all of the Union clubs are millions of pounds in debt. They've only got 10 clubs in the Premiership next season once London Irish go under.

We will have to agree to disagree on the merge of codes I’m afraid. And no issue with that. If we all had the same opinions the world would be a boring place

Re: Poor crowd : Sun May 28, 2023 10:01 am  

Septimius Severus wrote:

Agreed, even bigger than Saints

Tempted to go even further best display ever at lsv the level we achieved in that first 30 mins the character and togetherness shown to see the game out surpassed all previous

Re: Poor crowd : Tue May 30, 2023 7:47 am  

WYSIWYG2 wrote:

VL it will happen eventually. The financial situation and TV deals will demand it but as I say, the influence of our RL legends, who have regrettably been lost to our game, is already speeding Union up and over time as more tweaks are made Union will have evolved to the point where there won't be much difference between the 2 codes and the natural progression will be to merge back to one code of Rugby. It isn't going to happen overnight, maybe 10 or 15 years, but it will happen. Both codes are suffering financially and if SKY drop League or cut our funds drastically many League clubs will struggle to survive. And, as I've said, nearly all of the Union clubs are millions of pounds in debt. They've only got 10 clubs in the Premiership next season once London Irish go under.

I cut off some lovely cheese from the moon to put on my crackers last night and kids were free with adults paying £1.
RL are not suffering financially as we have cut our clothe at SL level, the pain is getting to SL and that’s why a virtual closed shop will happen soon in both codes.
You have a very limited understanding of debt, most folk go into debt to buy a house, they spend money on it and often extend it hoping it increases in price over time. Other folk think nothing of spending tens of thousands on a night out, they see £400m if debt at a soccer club as nothing.

Re: Poor crowd : Tue May 30, 2023 11:23 am  

Rugby League is the game of choice in Australia, PNG, Samoa and Tonga. Rugby Union is the game of choice in the Northern Hemisphere, South Africa and Argentina. Rugby League teams can survive with squads around 30, Rugby Union needs about 50 players. I think they use 15 in the team and about 8 subs. That is a much larger wage bill. Rugby League decided that Flankers were not needed, 2 less mouths to feed and more space on the field.
Rugby Union in the UK will never allow a dilution of their game, even though the biggest issues in the game are Scrums and Line-Outs and 2 extra players. I can't see anyway the two codes could ever find a common ground. It would be like asking Whitehaven and Workington to merge to form a Cumbrian Super League team.

Re: Poor crowd : Tue May 30, 2023 5:19 pm  

maurice wrote:

I cut off some lovely cheese from the moon to put on my crackers last night and kids were free with adults paying £1.
RL are not suffering financially as we have cut our clothe at SL level, the pain is getting to SL and that’s why a virtual closed shop will happen soon in both codes.
You have a very limited understanding of debt, most folk go into debt to buy a house, they spend money on it and often extend it hoping it increases in price over time. Other folk think nothing of spending tens of thousands on a night out, they see £400m if debt at a soccer club as nothing.

You obviously don't have the vaguest idea of the turmoil League will be in if SKY cut their ties with SL this season, nor of the impending financial collapse on the horizon with the failure already of several large US banks plus Credit Suisse. Not to mention the threat the BRICS countries pose to the US dollar as the reserve currency. With a bit of luck your bank will raid your account in a bail-in and any investments you have will plummet
to zero and you will get a great dose of financial reality most people are facing.

So do us all a favour Maurice and keep your condescending ramblings in your fairytale world of 'I'm Alright Jack'

Re: Poor crowd : Tue May 30, 2023 5:40 pm  

WYSIWYG2 wrote:

VL it will happen eventually. The financial situation and TV deals will demand it but as I say, the influence of our RL legends, who have regrettably been lost to our game, is already speeding Union up and over time as more tweaks are made Union will have evolved to the point where there won't be much difference between the 2 codes and the natural progression will be to merge back to one code of Rugby. It isn't going to happen overnight, maybe 10 or 15 years, but it will happen. Both codes are suffering financially and if SKY drop League or cut our funds drastically many League clubs will struggle to survive. And, as I've said, nearly all of the Union clubs are millions of pounds in debt. They've only got 10 clubs in the Premiership next season once London Irish go under.

Why would he move us out of Leigh?
I'll agree to disagree with you on this assumption.