: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:46 pm  

Marsdengiant wrote:

I have no idea why someone would want to muck rake. That is why I ask the poster for evidence / proof.

If they are making things up to criticise the club I hope we should be allowed to question it(?) If it is picky to ask a poster to back up criticisms with facts then that is a shame.

I have asked for proof from the poster and so far he / she has provided none.

DMH or GOD u choose wrote:

Compare the number of schools this term and the same period last year, the reduction in (experienced) personnel on the community team, all activity now takes place at the ZONE (at a cost) and not at local clubs as it has been done in the past.

Barring giving you the school figure which im presuming is lower then it seems answers have been provided there

Doesnt come across as a criticism to me, more just pointing out a few things

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:43 pm  

PBGIANT wrote:

Shouldn’t they have finished their season by then? Or are we talking U8 summer league?

my son is under 9s and they doing summer league now too. better weather wise but shame if we miss the game

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:44 pm  

DMH or GOD u choose wrote:

It's a shocking time to play the game,

the under 8's and 9's and emerging 8's all will have games, and as piglet said unless the coach is a giants fan a lot of kids will miss this game.

I know that there is 35+ kids (and families) playing at Moldgreen Jnr’s who will have to make a choice Giants or the team they play for.

The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!

exactly...my son actually plays for moldgreen under 9s lol

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:30 pm  

DMH or GOD u choose wrote:

It's a shocking time to play the game,

the under 8's and 9's and emerging 8's all will have games, and as piglet said unless the coach is a giants fan a lot of kids will miss this game.

I know that there is 35+ kids (and families) playing at Moldgreen Jnr’s who will have to make a choice Giants or the team they play for.

The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!

my lad play's for shawcross U8,kick off time for his games are 10.30 sunday mornings
as for the giants in the community,in the 3 years he has been playing the game. at the end of season presentation a member of the giants squad were supposed to turn up at the event,but in 3 years none has turned up
yet we have had bradford,leeds,wakefield and dewsbury players turn up every year.so one would have to agree with DMH or GOD u choose

[Durham Giant]

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:39 pm  

Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.

I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.

Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:50 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.

I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.

Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.

Im sure im quoted at the time saying something along the lines as........... What Sally Nook getting to a final has to do with the Giants then i dont know, not taking anything away from their acheivement.

Surprised at Ponner's comments to be honest, i know of at least 1 player who does a lot of presentation nights, coaching, watching at amateur/kids level, maybe he does that off his own back, i dont know

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:00 pm  

Gahan wrote:

Im sure im quoted at the time saying something along the lines as........... What Sally Nook getting to a final has to do with the Giants then i dont know, not taking anything away from their acheivement.

Surprised at Ponner's comments to be honest, i know of at least 1 player who does a lot of presentation nights, coaching, watching at amateur/kids level, maybe he does that off his own back, i dont know

Eh? What did I say?

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:00 pm  

Dam it was Watson


Sorry Mark

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:28 pm  

PONNER wrote:

Eh? What did I say?

Nothing - as usual!

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:56 pm  

Gahan wrote:

Barring giving you the school figure which im presuming is lower then it seems answers have been provided there

Doesnt come across as a criticism to me, more just pointing out a few things

The figures are the answer not simply a suggestion to make a comparison.

The phrase

" The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!"

reads like a criticism to me. If it is based on fact it is fair criticism. Otherwise it is criticism without evidence - which I have called muck raking. So far no evidence has been forthcoming