: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:05 am
Durham Giant wrote:
i think that maybe the voting pattern suggests that Thorman has been missed. Votes were evenly split before the Hull game but have become much more pro Thorman after the Hull game.
maybe that is Hull fans voting maybe not.
also some of the comments seem to only look at one indavidual element of Thormans performance eg all thorman did was stand back and pass the ball.
The judge of how well a half back plays surely has to be judged on a lot of different criteria.
Do the two half backs complement each other ?
Horne and Thorman worked well together. One organising and the other showing indavidual flair.
One of them short kicking and the other long kicking.
Brown and Robinson are both good players in their own right but they do not complement each other. They are both very busy attacking the line but neither seem to direct play and run the attacking moves. we only look dangerous or inventive when Hodgson is running the show.
Hull played simple and effective rugby and it worked. we played lots of off the cuff stuff that did not
What does the half back add to the team that other players do not ?
Thorman has a great short kicking game. we do not have one player who does. thorman is a great goal kicker , Hodgson has not yet got up to speed. thorman is a thinker other than Hodgson i am not sure we do.
No matter how people feel about Thorman there is no doubt that i would rather him being in our team at the minute than playing somewhere else. We amde a mistake in getting rid of him before Carney was secured although recent events suggest we made a lucky escape in not getting Carney after his arrest AGAIN last week.
BUT it is all in the past and we now have to make do with what we have got which at the minute is not enough. A long hard season ahead for us particularly now injuries to key players are hitting us.
Using voting patterns to judge a player is idiotic. if 50 people now vote Thorman > brown I could not care less.
selecting ' bits of data' to support Thorman is also foolish. Over a career, not a few weeks, BH is a superior kicker. an inconvenient fact, I know.
As for CT is a 'thinker'. Not sure what this means in terms of actual observable performance. it may be a convenient label to try and 'big up' a player but is actually meaningless.
As for a 'single criteria for judging Thorman. Here are a few:
short kicking game - good
long kicking game - inconsistent
goal kicking - currently irrelevant
passing - sound, selection less impressive
speed/strength - slowing and no strength to break tackles
ability to beat a man - virtually zero
defence - poor to very poor
catching high balls - inconsistent
running - tends to be lateral, slow and renders his passes ineffective. if the defensive line move up he has the ability to deliver a good short kick.
His short kicking game would give us something extra but the price would be far too high IMO.
May have been good for the club and CT if NB had got hold of him a few years ago.
