Holding down : Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:40 pm  

Is there more holding/slowing down creeping into our game? I thought Hull did it on Sat, although not as much as Wigan and Hudds.

Teams seem to be getting 2 in the tackle and then a third is joining and laying on, slowing the PTB down.

Just a thought I wondered if others have noticed this or its just me!!

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:56 pm  

You are right but sod all will be done.

Re: Holding down : Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:59 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Is there more holding/slowing down creeping into our game? I thought Hull did it on Sat, although not as much as Wigan and Hudds.

Teams seem to be getting 2 in the tackle and then a third is joining and laying on, slowing the PTB down.

Just a thought I wondered if others have noticed this or its just me!!

No I noticed exactly the same thing against Hull. I was getting really annoyed because we didnt follow suit. We never seem to understand how to play the referree. They were able to play a quicker PTB than us as a result. When the third player just lays on and the ref still doesnt penalise the whole thing is a joke. Remember when we knocked on!? with the Hull players leg dislodging the ball as he 'rolled over' our player instead of rolling away.Even Stevo called it. Happened many times if you watch the replay. No wonder Hull can grind out the wins.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:39 pm  

i disagree i don't think there was that much laying on in the hull game the pitch was heavy and the knock on was a very poor decision but 2 points who cares right?

Re: Holding down : Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:47 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Is there more holding/slowing down creeping into our game? I thought Hull did it on Sat, although not as much as Wigan and Hudds.

Teams seem to be getting 2 in the tackle and then a third is joining and laying on, slowing the PTB down.

Just a thought I wondered if others have noticed this or its just me!!

Wigan got away with a lot, generally we seem to get up quickly so we can work hard from marker.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:49 pm  

....so what happened to that good old 'offence' called the 'FLOP'!!

The answer to all this might be the use of a second 'on field' referee.....it's certainly working in the NRL where it's resulted in a much faster game and seemingly liked by most supporters though perhaps not by players and coach's!!

At the very least it will enable certain 'fans' to double their 'hobby' of shouting abuse at the ref.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:51 pm  

stormingbronco wrote:

....so what happened to that good old 'offence' called the 'FLOP'!!

The answer to all this might be the use of a second 'on field' referee.....it's certainly working in the NRL where it's resulted in a much faster game and seemingly liked by most supporters though perhaps not by players and coach's!!

At the very least it will enable certain 'fans' to double their 'hobby' of shouting abuse at the ref.

I don't think you understand the rules

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:52 pm  

we had a reputation 2 seasons back for laying on and slowing the game down, we got hammered for it
Watching last nights game right now, the Hull players were not rolling away straight away, they only moved when the ref called "Move"

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:53 pm  

Im not sure it is a flop. They get the third player in towards the end of the tackle.

TR tried to introduce the 3 man tackle when we moved back to the Stoop(nothing to do with the ground more the year that I have forgotten)

Just to throw a further spanner in- Is there more work being done on the ground around the neck?

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:56 pm  

Sorry but I thought it had been generally accepted that more time was being given at the play the ball this season. Slow things down a bit to match the Aussies. Just in time for them to apparently speed things up again by using two referees.