: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:55 pm  

The RFL is thinking about a second London Super League club --- possibly Skolars --- not about having Harlequins move!

Richard Lewis wants two SL clubs in London to create a local derby, and also to give real professional opportunities for the massive and increasing number of working class London boys who want to be the next Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Tony Clubb or Will Sharp.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:54 pm  

The RFL is thinking about a second London Super League club --- possibly Skolars --- not about having Harlequins move!

Richard Lewis wants two SL clubs in London to create a local derby, and also to give real professional opportunities for the massive and increasing number of working class London boys who want to be the next Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Tony Clubb or Will Sharp.

Is this a 'working class' boys play League, the rest play Union type of thing ? If it is then it seems to be a pretty efficient way of alienating all of them.

I don't know what the next step up is from 'massive' but whatever it is, multiply it by 10 and you'll have a rough idea of the number of boys that play Rugby Union. Whatever you may think, Rugby League is up against it down here and by appearing to target 'working class' boys over everyone else it will make it even harder, if not impossible.

Why don't they just give real professional opportunities to anyone who wants to take the game up ?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:32 pm  

novice wrote:

Is this a 'working class' boys play League, the rest play Union type of thing ? If it is then it seems to be a pretty efficient way of alienating all of them.

I don't know what the next step up is from 'massive' but whatever it is, multiply it by 10 and you'll have a rough idea of the number of boys that play Rugby Union. Whatever you may think, Rugby League is up against it down here and by appearing to target 'working class' boys over everyone else it will make it even harder, if not impossible.

Why don't they just give real professional opportunities to anyone who wants to take the game up ?

Perhaps I miswrote the qualifier "working class." The game is open to everyone. But it is the working class who are more likely to become professional rugby league players than the university students present or future.

The middle class boys, whom I suspect are the core and majority of the "10 times" number who play rugby union in London, are never going to be professional rugby union players, because it would interfere with their university studies or with their active careers in business,banking, medicine, law or another profession.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:34 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

The RFL is thinking about a second London Super League club --- possibly Skolars --- not about having Harlequins move!

I doubt that will happen for a considerable amount of time. What we need is 1, self sufficient London based team, with gates over 8,000 and challenging for honours with a squad full of our own, home grown talent.
If the RFL were to put skolars in whilst we have 4,000 crowds, I believe that some of our northern cousins might well top themselves
Seriously, if we can get to 8,000 gates by 2016, THEN maybe look at a second London Franchise.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:35 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

The RFL is thinking about a second London Super League club --- possibly Skolars --- not about having Harlequins move!

Nice to have you back Albert. I always suspected it was you

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:03 pm  

......forgot to include the second 'titbit' from the Guadrian report. It's that the RFL would like to have the Olympic Stadium as their HQ ground for the South of Englaznd.

As regards the access potential.......personally think the OLympic site is better accesswise - more so for the Northern teams/fans than the Stoop.
Might add that living in Chiswick it's quicker to Olympic Stadium than it ever will be to the Stoop.

The only 'negative' might be the lack of pubs n'bye!!!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:06 pm  

stormingbronco wrote:

......forgot to include the second 'titbit' from the Guadrian report. It's that the RFL would like to have the Olympic Stadium as their HQ ground for the South of Englaznd.

As regards the access potential.......personally think the OLympic site is better accesswise - more so for the Northern teams/fans than the Stoop.
Might add that living in Chiswick it's quicker to Olympic Stadium than it ever will be to the Stoop.

The only 'negative' might be the lack of pubs n'bye!!!

The stadium will have to keep its running track, making it unsuitable for football or either rugby code. If they change the design (a la stade francais)and have a retractable seating area, then fine, otherwise, it will not be fan friendly. Jesus, just look at the bitching on here about 20 feet of concourse in front of the east stand
HTH.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:09 pm  

The Stoop

Awful access
M25 - 20 mins away.
M3 - 10 mins away
Twickenham NR Station - 10 min walk
Waterloo - 30 mins
Clapham Junction - 20 mins

That has to be some of the most god awful public transport links i think ive ever seen.

Jesus........nothing is under 10 mins away.

How on earth am i going to survive, i mean there isnt even a Tesco Express, Starbucks or Pret a Manger within a stones throw.

Its an outrage and i for one have started the FaceBook group to get Quins removed from Super League because this is just not up to scratch!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:11 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

The Stoop

Awful access
M25 - 20 mins away.
M3 - 10 mins away
Twickenham NR Station - 10 min walk
Waterloo - 30 mins
Clapham Junction - 20 mins

That has to be some of the most god awful public transport links i think ive ever seen.

Jesus........nothing is under 10 mins away.

How on earth am i going to survive, i mean there isnt even a Tesco Express, Starbucks or Pret a Manger within a stones throw.

Its an outrage and i for one have started the FaceBook group to get Quins removed from Super League because this is just not up to scratch!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:15 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

The Stoop

Awful access
M25 - 20 mins away.
M3 - 10 mins away
Twickenham NR Station - 10 min walk
Waterloo - 30 mins
Clapham Junction - 20 mins

That has to be some of the most god awful public transport links i think ive ever seen.

Jesus........nothing is under 10 mins away.

How on earth am i going to survive, i mean there isnt even a Tesco Express, Starbucks or Pret a Manger within a stones throw.

Its an outrage and i for one have started the FaceBook group to get Quins removed from Super League because this is just not up to scratch!