: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:08 pm  

The Penguin wrote:

Who is this imbecile?

Rabbit Burrow, Chris Warren's less talented brother.

He scored some excellent own goals yesterday, up there with Stevo for shooting the sport in the foot with both barrels while attempting us his mouth.

We want WARREN, we want WARREN!

Give us a "W"...

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:22 pm  

Don't know who he is, but the club are doing what they can on a limited budget.
I suspect that accounts will have to be submitted as part of the next round of franchise bids and Mr Warren ain't cheap....he's a media star now

I am more concerned about the continued marketing to those who came to the game as against the tw@ on the tannoy.
Why were there not posters all over the place advertising the Wigan game? Why weren't we actively selling (if not ST's) tickets to the Wigan game in the bar before during and after the game? Why do Harlequins as a whole continue to get an unsuccessful company to try to get the ads in the toilets sold?
All of these things will be addressed WHEN we get a CEO/Marketing bod in place, but without the RFL and Alisons hard work, we would have seen 3,000 yesterday and the club need to buck up their ideas. It says something about the state of the club when a volunteer group and an ex-player manage to add 100% to the crowd on a shoestring budget.
GUTTERFAX PREPARES TO GET SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES
Mr Hughes is a saint, but we need to direct funds into marketing, or we will miss this (again) opportunity to build on yesterdays crowds. Yes, the community team are bringing through the fruits of their hard work (O'Callaghan being another one to look out for), but money needs to be put into marketing on a game by game basis NOW. I get the impression that Mr H isn't that bothered by the crowds and is the type of person who doesn't take critisism to well, but if you start at £10,000 a game and assess the success for each game against the 3 year average for each team, then you start to understand what works and what doesn't.
For example (and in theory as it is too late for this game)
Wigan: 5 games over the 3 years with an average crowd of 5,350. If we spend 10k on marketing and attract 7,000 to the game, then 1,650 fans at £15 each, then we get a £24,720 return + Residuals (beer etc) (£6 a ticket)
Catalans: 4 games averaging 3,080.....spend 10k get 5,000 and you get 1,920 fans at £5 each, with loads more on the bars etc.....and generate an extra £28,800 in revenue.

Yesterday proved what can be done when you allocate budget and get creative with how to spend it. Please god the lesson has been learnt

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:29 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Don't know who he is, but the club are doing what they can on a limited budget.
I suspect that accounts will have to be submitted as part of the next round of franchise bids and Mr Warren ain't cheap....he's a media star now

I am more concerned about the continued marketing to those who came to the game as against the tw@ on the tannoy.
Why were there not posters all over the place advertising the Wigan game? Why weren't we actively selling (if not ST's) tickets to the Wigan game in the bar before during and after the game? Why do Harlequins as a whole continue to get an unsuccessful company to try to get the ads in the toilets sold?
All of these things will be addressed WHEN we get a CEO/Marketing bod in place, but without the RFL and Alisons hard work, we would have seen 3,000 yesterday and the club need to buck up their ideas. It says something about the state of the club when a volunteer group and an ex-player manage to add 100% to the crowd on a shoestring budget.
GUTTERFAX PREPARES TO GET SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES
Mr Hughes is a saint, but we need to direct funds into marketing, or we will miss this (again) opportunity to build on yesterdays crowds. Yes, the community team are bringing through the fruits of their hard work (O'Callaghan being another one to look out for), but money needs to be put into marketing on a game by game basis NOW. I get the impression that Mr H isn't that bothered by the crowds and is the type of person who doesn't take critisism to well, but if you start at £10,000 a game and assess the success for each game against the 3 year average for each team, then you start to understand what works and what doesn't.
For example (and in theory as it is too late for this game)
Wigan: 5 games over the 3 years with an average crowd of 5,350. If we spend 10k on marketing and attract 7,000 to the game, then 1,650 fans at £15 each, then we get a £24,720 return + Residuals (beer etc) (£6 a ticket)
Catalans: 4 games averaging 3,080.....spend 10k get 5,000 and you get 1,920 fans at £5 each, with loads more on the bars etc.....and generate an extra £28,800 in revenue.

Yesterday proved what can be done when you allocate budget and get creative with how to spend it. Please god the lesson has been learnt

Your talents are so desperately wasted. Have or did you apply for the CEO role? You deserve to be the CEO! I tried, I aksed them for details of where to send a CV etc. Obviously I did it under my own name etc. I got no reply.

I reckon I could do a dam good job as well. The devil is always in the detail as they say.

Re: Delayed Kick Off : Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:33 pm  

Charmless Nerk wrote:

London-based BBC journalist George Reilly reported on Radio Leeds that the delay to the kick off was due not to crowd congestion but to a monumental balls up in sending a "16 seater" to collect the champion Manly team from their hotel.

Jesus wept

Would that have been Harlequins fault?

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:38 pm  

retirethename wrote:

Your talents are so desperately wasted. Have or did you apply for the CEO role? You deserve to be the CEO! I tried, I aksed them for details of where to send a CV etc. Obviously I did it under my own name etc. I got no reply.

I reckon I could do a dam good job as well. The devil is always in the detail as they say.

Shot down in flames I am afraid. Applied but didn't even get considered . I wouldn't have minded so much, but given I get paid a lot more that was on offer, by companies that live in the real world, I found it particilarly annoying that I was dismissed without an interview. It may well have been that I didn't hold a marketing or business degree, or that I come from a sales background, or that I am ginger....ah well, at least I can continue to snipe from these boards
Every cloud and all that

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:48 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Why were there not posters all over the place advertising the Wigan game? Why weren't we actively selling (if not ST's) tickets to the Wigan game in the bar before during and after the game?

I was sure there would be posters/leaflets advertising the Wigan game maybe something along the lines of 'Now you know where we are, why not come back!" or maybe something a little catchy! Was surprised when I saw nothing.

I thought the crowd and day was a great success and congratulations to all involved. However we had 6000k people yesterday of whom at least 4000 may have been newcomers, of whom we know nothing about and no way of contacting. Seems a lost opportunity.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:51 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Shot down in flames I am afraid. Applied but didn't even get considered . I wouldn't have minded so much, but given I get paid a lot more that was on offer, by companies that live in the real world, I found it particilarly annoying that I was dismissed without an interview. It may well have been that I didn't hold a marketing or business degree, or that I come from a sales background, or that I am ginger....ah well, at least I can continue to snipe from these boards
Every cloud and all that

Yes a degree opens lots of doors. Just look at the great brains running the banks and government, never mind Quins RL. Several years at Uni makes for a superior being. Of course hard work, learning the ropes from the bottom up etc. these days is looked down upon. The younger generation just expect to go straight in at the top because they have been brain washed to believe it is their right.

I am sure that if the Quins RL staff and to some degree players read these boards regularly they might wonder why they bother. To often they get little credit, but it has hard to make fine lace when you can only afford sack cloth. Still I enjoyed the day yesterday and my mate who came along really enjoyed how the "game flowed, unlike the Six Nations", he seemed won over to come again.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:55 pm  

retirethename wrote:

Yes a degree opens lots of doors. Just look at the great brains running the banks and government, never mind Quins RL. Several years at Uni makes for a superior being. Of course hard work, learning the ropes from the bottom up etc. these days is looked down upon. The younger generation just expect to go straight in at the top because they have been brain washed to believe it is their right.

Yes. Their posession of a degree is the reason why they've failed so miserably.

That chip on your shoulder must really cause problems for your peripheral vision.

Delayed kick off : Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:57 pm  

steve@code13 wrote:

I was sure there would be posters/leaflets advertising the Wigan game maybe something along the lines of 'Now you know where we are, why not come back!" or maybe something a little catchy! Was surprised when I saw nothing.

I thought the crowd and day was a great success and congratulations to all involved. However we had 6000k people yesterday of whom at least 4000 may have been newcomers, of whom we know nothing about and no way of contacting. Seems a lost opportunity.

Suppose we'll see next Saturday - from what I read it sounded like the Aussie fans enjoyed themselves, and the bars! Perhaps if they could have been allowed buy a ticket for next week's game along with their drinks more of them would come back for the Wigan game. I'm not advocating taking avantage of the inebriated (no I probably am really!) but they might have been easier to persuade to part with their dosh while bevvied, and then with the ticket bought and paid for and stuffed in the back of the wallet, more likely to come back! If you've already paid then you'd surely be more likely to use it surely! The pie eaters usually bring a large support with them so it would have been a good opportunity to put the crowd figure up to the same level as for yesterday's friendly. If the game is good (with a good crowd, competive game , us winning!) those guys might keep on coming back. Hope its not a missed opportunity,even if only a few hundred came back it could be something to build on.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:59 pm  

The Penguin wrote:

Yes. Their posession of a degree is the reason why they've failed so miserably.

That chip on your shoulder must really cause problems for your peripheral vision.

No, just had to deal with to many no it all's straight of the gravey train. It used to bother me, now i am older I just can't be ar$ed to get worked up by it. I have I suppose you might say I have eaten my chip!