Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:00 pm  

Perry wrote:

This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...

Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.

The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:30 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.

The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.

I guess this stuff can cut both ways.
I know that Nottingham City Council own the freehold to both football grounds (Meadow Lane and the City Ground), which is why when some dodgy con artists bought Notts County thinking they'd get their hands on the freehold they came unstuck (though not before fleecing about £200k out of the club).
Trouble is, it only takes one money grabbing council to put the freeholds up for sale, and it could all go to pot.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:33 pm  

jaybs wrote:

Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!

There's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing in that direction.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:07 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote: Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained. The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton. Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA

BroncOnIon wrote: Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained. The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton. Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:18 pm  

Rob from Erith wrote: Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA Never anything like that. Walked past the convent many times but never saw signs of life. Think that they were closed/enclosed. Pity, they might have made a formidable group of fans.

Rob from Erith wrote: Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA Never anything like that. Walked past the convent many times but never saw signs of life. Think that they were closed/enclosed. Pity, they might have made a formidable group of fans.

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:13 pm  

BroncOnIon wrote:

:D Never anything like that.

Walked past the convent many times but never saw signs of life. Think that they were closed/enclosed. Pity, they might have made a formidable group of fans.

A bit like the Wakey fans in Nun fancy dresss many years ago!

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:23 pm  

Paddock Punter wrote:

A bit like the Wakey fans in Nun fancy dresss many years ago!

stop harking on about the past......London Broncos have no need of fans.....especially not away ones!

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:18 pm  

Honkytonk wrote:

my god what a pathetic thread. No wonder quite a few don't come on here.

And yet this thread and it's brother discussing the new home before ETF was confirmed are responsible for more traffic than the other threads combined? Go figure! Those posters who no longer visit this site number in the dozen or maybe dozen and a half. Those fans who don't attend games any more number in their thousands, but let's blame Jim Pooley because he's discussing something that makes us uncomfortable.
What is pathetic is the number of fans willing to cast blame on an internet poster rather than looking slightly closer to home as to why we're a mid table team in the 2nd tier looking at playing at something similar to Chiswick Poly next year.

the rugbyman wrote:

When are the children going !!! Can't stand this forum.

Is that why you've posted 165 times in 10 years.....or is that down to Jim Pooley as well?

Here's a gem of yours from September 2014.

the rugbyman wrote:

Shame none of you could have seen the 850 at chiswick. Or roughly the same at palace and the thousands we've lost from early 80s to 90s. We've been folding since mid 90s. Before brisbane came in .... Then Branson.
Supporters and players in tears after thinking we were folding....
Real rollercoaster for some ... Think we lost 6,000 odd fans over those first few years too

...and people call me depressing!

Re: Ealing is the new venue : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:12 am  

Jim Pooley wrote:

And yet this thread and it's brother discussing the new home before ETF was confirmed are responsible for more traffic than the other threads combined? Go figure! Those posters who no longer visit this site number in the dozen or maybe dozen and a half. Those fans who don't attend games any more number in their thousands, but let's blame Jim Pooley because he's discussing something that makes us uncomfortable.
What is pathetic is the number of fans willing to cast blame on an internet poster rather than looking slightly closer to home as to why we're a mid table team in the 2nd tier looking at playing at something similar to Chiswick Poly next year.

Is that why you've posted 165 times in 10 years.....or is that down to Jim Pooley as well?

Here's a gem of yours from September 2014.
...and people call me depressing!

Drone

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Re: Ealing is the new venue : Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:21 am  

Here are the owners of the freehold [quote In 1997 The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charitybought the freehold of what is now the Trailfinders Sports Club, over £13 million has been invested to establish the best venue of its kind in the land. ][/quote]

He seems to be a very generous supporter of various charities. If this means we can buy into owning at least part of the facilities, and they can get planning permission to develop the ground (big ifs i know) then i might believe this is a slightly better move. I do agree with Jim Pooley on some of his statements. i am a late comer to the broncos started watching cup final year having moved to London, we then had 4000+ fans in a great stadium, we have fallen an awful long way and the mismanagement of the club has been breathtaking. Maybe this is rock bottom and the only way is up, but i am not sure. Fingers crossed............