Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:38 am  

A couple of points:

willow6666 wrote:

Barnet should have built what they had consent for but the new tory controlled local authority are trying to make mileage out of them f@@kin up. I can't believe how stupid the football club have been, they have dropped a right Gus.

That's not strictly true. They had permission to build more than they did. For example they had permission to build far taller, brighter floodlights. They opted for shorter more appropriate floodlights and technically they didn't have permission for these. Common sense would dictate this shouldn't be a problem, but there's council elections around the corner and the club, once again, find themselves being used as a political football. Once the election is out of the way I imagine the floodlights and stand will cease to be such a problem and a compromise will be found.

gutterfax wrote:

The Hive is not just a stadium....it is a sports centre that covers 44 acres of land and benefits the entire community.....Barnet council wouldn't dare run the risk of pissing off the owner, who essentially gives them a world class facility to boast about ..
...perfect opportunity for DH to get involved in the re-built stand and a proper ground partnership????????

For the last frigging time, it's not Barnet!!!!! You honestly think Barnet council would give Barnet FC permission to build on single a square millimetre of land you obviously haven't been following the sorry plight of the club for the last 15 years. Roll on next years council elections in any case. That's where I take my revenge.

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:51 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Actually, as much as I would love everything to go the clubs way, if I owned a house backing onto the land, that subsequently became a sports stadium, I'd be pushing for the letter of the law to be obeyed. The political affiliation of the local council has little bearing on what is right or wrong here.....they should have stuck to the plans and now this is going to cost them money. I suspect if they carry out the demolition with out appealing and then re-apply they will stand a much better chance of getting it through than if they fight the council.

I think you're right that it's bugger all to do with political ideology, it's purely about being seen to be backing residents. However, planning enforcement notices are not intended to be punitive measures, so by being heavy handed and demanding a demolition the council is probably setting itself up to lose the appeal (and their planning officers will have told them that beause it's the officers who will actually have to defend it to an inspector, and if those same officers themselves did accept the amendments but were vetoed by councillors for poltical reasons then the appeal should be very one sided). If Barnet FC have a half decent solictor behind them I think they won't be too concerned about the demolition order, and they can string this out for several years by playing their cards at the right time.

So it's not the end of the issue, but it could make it more difficult for any deal to be done for the Broncos, because if it ends up with some sort of deal between Barnet FC and the council over usage of the facilities or the floodlights it could leave the ground dead in the water as an interim SL ground (working on the asumption we see out the final year of our license before being relegated/folding at the end of next season).

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:32 pm  

As I posted on the VT, there's a statement on Barnet FC's website, they sound far from concerned. Nothing to see here (hopefully)

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:57 pm  

The provisional deal has basically collapsed. If we don't find an increased source of internal funding I don't see us starting next season.

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:05 pm  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

The provisional deal has basically collapsed. If we don't find an increased source of internal funding I don't see us starting next season.

...you've heard this from whom?

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:20 pm  

Gus told him two weeks ago

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:25 pm  

The same person who told me two weeks ago it was in real danger of collapse.

I have never named them publicly and won't now.Sorry but their condition for talking to me on this subject is I don't name them and I won't breach that promise.

Those on this board who know me will know the source is usually accurate. I certainly wouldn't have posted it without good reason to believe it.

I am happy to confirm it isn't Gus

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:30 pm  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

The same person who told me two weeks ago it was in real danger of collapse.

I have never named them publicly and won't now.Sorry but their condition for talking to me on this subject is I don't name them and I won't breach that promise.

Those on this board who know me will know the source is usually accurate. I certainly wouldn't have posted it without good reason to believe it.

I am happy to confirm it isn't Gus

Oh dear then......it looks like it is the end of the road which is a real shame. David Hughes said he would fund the club for this licence period and that licence was granted for us to be at the stoop.......something somewhere has gone very wrong within the club and the RFL for it to have been allowed to get to this sorry state of affairs.

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:38 pm  

It is still possible to sort it with goodwill at both ends. At the moment though both sides are holding firm and goodwill seems to be vanishing.

Re: A Fortnight Too Far? : Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:43 pm  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

It is still possible to sort it with goodwill at both ends. At the moment though both sides are holding firm and goodwill seems to be vanishing.

Hmmm...just heard from another source that "both parties are at the table and involved in positive discussion".

Guess we'll find out when we're meant to.....until then...let the conspiracy theories continue