Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:50 am  

The reality is, as jolly old Gutterfax the former pro union playing netball marketer from new zealand says, we may well finish in the top 4 next year, we won't get promoted, our team will then be weaker the following year with the reduction in central funding, crowds will go down, and we'll find ourselves at the same level as Hemel / Skolars only without our own stadium.

Does anybody seriously see any brighter prospect than that as it stands?

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:49 pm  

So why will we not get promoted?

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:44 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

So why will we not get promoted?

Because there's no automatic promotion, and our squad will be a lot weaker than the bottom 4 of SL, and we'll have been playing against weaker teams all season than the bottom 4 teams of SL who will be used to the speed, intensity and physicality of playing the likes of Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds all season long....and we won't.

No chance, absolutely no chance.

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:22 pm  

Don't forget as well its a once and for all chance for Bradford, and the one off parachute payment both the Broncos and the Bulls will be getting next year is more than they have received in Super League in the last two years! There may be a chance of one of the bottom four Super League clubs imploding, but two?
Interesting piece today that Karl Harrison and Lee Greenwood (ex Bronco) have left as coaches at Halifax because they missed out on a top two place this year and hence will get £250k less than Leigh and Fev. The shape of things to come?

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:50 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

Because there's no automatic promotion, and our squad will be a lot weaker than the bottom 4 of SL, and we'll have been playing against weaker teams all season than the bottom 4 teams of SL who will be used to the speed, intensity and physicality of playing the likes of Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds all season long....and we won't.

No chance, absolutely no chance.

What he said.

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:39 pm  

Never say never, but odds certainly don't favour the four lucky championship clubs that get the chance. And beyond the first year for us the odds diminish further.

Mind you given the leadership at the RFL 2016 may well be a different format once the other clubs realise the reality.

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:41 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

Because there's no automatic promotion, and our squad will be a lot weaker than the bottom 4 of SL, and we'll have been playing against weaker teams all season than the bottom 4 teams of SL who will be used to the speed, intensity and physicality of playing the likes of Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds all season long....and we won't.

No chance, absolutely no chance.

Spot on
I want good enough to be a paid amateur rugby player.....so not pro!

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:35 pm  

nothing like optimism is there boys!!!
That's it we are doomed!!!! doomed I say

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:39 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

nothing like optimism is there boys!!!
That's it we are doomed!!!! doomed I say

Michael. I would love the London Broncos to win promotion to SL by finishing in the top 4 of the Championship then by finishing either in the top 3 of the middle 8, or at least 4th or 5th to be involved in and then win the million pound game.

The Problems I have with this optimism are:

The name "Million pound game" should give you an idea of the gap in finances between the team from SL involved and the team from the championship.
Income wise, the SL lot will be on at least 60% more than ourselves.....that gap widens further in 2016.
The Team from the SL will have a bigger cap by some 800k or 55%......bigger cap = better players
The Team from the Championship will have less overseas imports.....we've a retired player turned miner on our books for next year.
The Championship team will be made up of players not good enough for SL.....I am struggling to think of 1 player we have signed for next year that a SL club has "missed out on".
The team from SL will be battle hardened from faster and harder challenges against top teams.
The weather has less chance of playing a part in the "results" of the middle league or million quid game as it's late summer/autumn.
The last championship side to defeat a SL one was HKR in 2006' challenge cup. They then got nilled in the next round.....a Championship side will have to win 2 of 5 games against SL opposition to go up......we have currently won 1 of 25.
As it stands, this year Leigh and Fev would join us and Bradford in taking on The Hulls, Wakey and Salford.....this year to date in the 7 games v these teams we've shipped 312 points and scored 92. That's 44-13 loss. And then we've lost to Bradford already away too.....so that's 0 points with a -233 points difference from 8 games v potentially 5 of next years middle 8 opponents.. AND THAT'S WITH A SL STANDARD TEAM. We could murder Leigh and Fev.....it won't matter.
Did I mention finances? Salford (4,741), Hull FC(10,989), Hull KR (7,968) and Wakefield (4,340) with half a stadium closed have between 9,700 and 3,050 more fans, 13 times a year to sell shirts, beer, food and other stuff to AFTER they have paid for their tickets. Next year, London's average will not be boosted by the visits of Wigan, Leeds and Saints......we will struggle further to match these SL teams financially.


You mistake a healthy dose of Realism for negativity.

HIVE UPDATE: Interesting that this weeks e-mail from the club was entitled "We'll be back".....but didn't divulge "back where" or "when".......Given it's the last Home game of the season they are promoting, surely confirmation of ticketing etc will be forthcoming soon??????

Re: Homeless in 2015 : Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:00 am  

Always though it to be a membership rather than a season ticket and prices were already set. With regards promotion to SL at the end of next season we can't do any worse than in the past six years being optimistic.