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Re: 2025 : Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:10 pm  
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Don't disagree with this other than to say most successful people tend to be arrogant including dare I say it yourself. Unfortunately, Hughes & success where rugby league are concerned were never in the same bed.

On those occasions when i have been successful, I was always wary of the thinnest of lines between arrogance and self confidence and admit to having crosses it a number of times. What kept me (and still keeps me) grounded was the times i wasn't successful or made gross errors when I then had ro bw himble and accept defeat and or advice/help.
Hughes biggest problem was he wouldnt take advice from anyone, even The RFL. He would insteas double down on his errors and towards the end became more beligerent. 2 unexpected MPG wins which were 100% luck more than planning gave him a warm fuzzy feeling of success, but now his mismanagement of the important things has been laid bare doe all to see by IMG, he does that most arrogant of all things.....he walks away.
Instead of changing back to the broncos name and leaving the Stoop, if he had instead remained QuinsRL at TW2 and even just employed the sicial media from 2024, we would have scored much better than we did in the gradings. NOBODY ELSE IA TO BLAME.
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Re: 2025 : Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:34 am  
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On those occasions when i have been successful, I was always wary of the thinnest of lines between arrogance and self confidence and admit to having crosses it a number of times. What kept me (and still keeps me) grounded was the times i wasn't successful or made gross errors when I then had ro bw himble and accept defeat and or advice/help.
Hughes biggest problem was he wouldnt take advice from anyone, even The RFL. He would insteas double down on his errors and towards the end became more beligerent. 2 unexpected MPG wins which were 100% luck more than planning gave him a warm fuzzy feeling of success, but now his mismanagement of the important things has been laid bare doe all to see by IMG, he does that most arrogant of all things.....he walks away.
Instead of changing back to the broncos name and leaving the Stoop, if he had instead remained QuinsRL at TW2 and even just employed the sicial media from 2024, we would have scored much better than we did in the gradings. NOBODY ELSE IA TO BLAME.


I am actually very sad today, DH's money was papering over the huge cracks, and it was well known that without the huge financial support that DH was providing, RL in the capital was toast. Well gentlemen, we are here and we are now toast.

When Ian Lenaghan arrived in 2005, for the first time I was hopeful that there was a strategy being put in place to back up the millions that was being pi55ed down the toilet each year. I could see that there was enthusiasm from the marketing, selling the product to London. We took out advertising space in the Evening Standard, we were at train stations during the evening rush hour, everybody was shoulder to the wheel. Yes there were issues, but it was the period where I thought RL in London was turning the corner. Most of all, we were a happy bunch.

IL was forced to drop us after he acquired Wig*n, back to the DH show we went. The bad habits started to come out again. Same amount of money, but no strategy on how to invest it into the future, instead short termism and unrealistic goals in the most part. The viscous cycle started.

I saw the start to the end when Gus Ma*kay was brought in. If you think about it, the most London Bronco supporter I knew (Paddock Punter), Nigel went to every game home and away (1st team, Reserves, Academy). In my view he was the most loyal and ardent fan any club of any sport could have. Gus some how managed to massively offend him, took a stand that he wanted new fans without taking the Paddocks of the club into consideration. It was blind arrogance.

From there, When I came back from Australia for a year in 2011, the club I knew when I left was a shell. The enthusiasm left, the real hard core of supporters were alienated and had left they didn't care, and as such soul of the club was ripped out. But don't worry, DH was paying the bills and hiring total poop to 'run' his hobby horse.

That was the problem, when IL left in 2008, we then started to witness this very slow, nasty and very expensive car crash, and there was not a lot we could do about it. Unfortunately we are all collateral damage, that's why I am sad today.

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Re: 2025 : Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:32 am  
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I am actually very sad today, DH's money was papering over the huge cracks, and it was well known that without the huge financial support that DH was providing, RL in the capital was toast. Well gentlemen, we are here and we are now toast.

When Ian Lenaghan arrived in 2005, for the first time I was hopeful that there was a strategy being put in place to back up the millions that was being pi55ed down the toilet each year. I could see that there was enthusiasm from the marketing, selling the product to London. We took out advertising space in the Evening Standard, we were at train stations during the evening rush hour, everybody was shoulder to the wheel. Yes there were issues, but it was the period where I thought RL in London was turning the corner. Most of all, we were a happy bunch.

IL was forced to drop us after he acquired Wig*n, back to the DH show we went. The bad habits started to come out again. Same amount of money, but no strategy on how to invest it into the future, instead short termism and unrealistic goals in the most part. The viscous cycle started.

I saw the start to the end when Gus Ma*kay was brought in. If you think about it, the most London Bronco supporter I knew (Paddock Punter), Nigel went to every game home and away (1st team, Reserves, Academy). In my view he was the most loyal and ardent fan any club of any sport could have. Gus some how managed to massively offend him, took a stand that he wanted new fans without taking the Paddocks of the club into consideration. It was blind arrogance.

From there, When I came back from Australia for a year in 2011, the club I knew when I left was a shell. The enthusiasm left, the real hard core of supporters were alienated and had left they didn't care, and as such soul of the club was ripped out. But don't worry, DH was paying the bills and hiring total poop to 'run' his hobby horse.

That was the problem, when IL left in 2008, we then started to witness this very slow, nasty and very expensive car crash, and there was not a lot we could do about it. Unfortunately we are all collateral damage, that's why I am sad today.

See you at the Scholars!


Yep, it all started to go wrong when Hughes was left to his own devices. He has made some terrible decisions, vexed a lot of people off and employed some total buffoons to supposedly run the club.
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Re: 2025 : Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:33 am  
A trip to Toulouse it is then. I hope that it is not too early in the season.
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Re: 2025 : Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:37 pm  
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A trip to Toulouse it is then. I hope that it is not too early in the season.


Alas. My trips to blighty are now enshrined in early July meaning I will probably never get to see the Broncos at the feted mecca that is Plough Lane, regardless of what division we are in
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Re: 2025 : Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:15 pm  
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A trip to Toulouse it is then. I hope that it is not too early in the season.


It is at least several steps up from a trip to Wakie or Cas. Certainly February in Perpignan is a thing to avoid but at least there is more to do in Toulouse.
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Re: 2025 : Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:39 pm  
I agree Deadcowboys1, Toulouse holds far more of an attraction for me than either Castleford or Wakefield.
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Re: 2025 : Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:50 pm  
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I agree Deadcowboys1, Toulouse holds far more of an attraction for me than either Castleford or Wakefield.

They’ve opened a Wetherspoons there? Good to know!
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Re: 2025 : Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:53 pm  
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They’ve opened a Wetherspoons there? Good to know!


A Weatherspoons in Toulouse?? Sacre bleu !!
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Re: 2025 : Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:18 pm  
All day Croissant doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
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