: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:31 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

Edmondson in 2004 also.

Well spotted but the point has surely been proven?

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:32 am  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Well spotted but the point has surely been proven?

ive no idea what the point was?

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:33 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

ive no idea what the point was?

Sometimes that's a blissful state to be in!

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:39 am  

Edited to include the famous two.

[DaveO]

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:12 am  

THELAST3YARDS wrote:

I am right then

No you weren't.

Courtesy of Rouges:

2004 Challenge Cup Final

St Helens: Wellens; Gardner, Gleeson, Talau, Albert; Hooper, Long; Fozzard, Cunningham, Mason, Joynt, Gilmour, Sculthorpe (capt). Subs: Feaunati, Bibey, Edmondson, Wilkin.

That is three out of the 1st 17 in that final who came through Saints academy.

As I said the basis of Saints success over the SL era has been based on bought in players. That 2004 side is a good example (even paid us a transfer fee for Bibey!) and proves what I said earlier that compared to the 2007 GF side I mentioned that had a majority of players from outside the club earlier successful sides had even more players brought in.

Where this idea Saints have been good at promoting local academy produced players over their successful era came from I don't know.

Dave

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:39 am  

DaveO wrote:

No you weren't.

Courtesy of Rouges:

2004 Challenge Cup Final

St Helens: Wellens; Gardner, Gleeson, Talau, Albert; Hooper, Long; Fozzard, Cunningham, Mason, Joynt, Gilmour, Sculthorpe (capt). Subs: Feaunati, Bibey, Edmondson, Wilkin.

That is three out of the 1st 17 in that final who came through Saints academy.

As I said the basis of Saints success over the SL era has been based on bought in players. That 2004 side is a good example (even paid us a transfer fee for Bibey!) and proves what I said earlier that compared to the 2007 GF side I mentioned that had a majority of players from outside the club earlier successful sides had even more players brought in.

Where this idea Saints have been good at promoting local academy produced players over their successful era came from I don't know.

Dave

that was one of our worst years for youth development. over the course of Super Leauge we have consistently had 5 or 6 academy products in the team

In the 2002 Grand Final over one third of the team came through the Academy system, which is a pretty good number IMO.

: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:36 pm  

We can all pick our games to apparently prove our point!

I named many players with medals to contradict your theory!

I don't doubt Saints have signed many players, as have many other clubs to dismiss the input of the academy set up is very wrong IMO!