Re: Saints (h) : Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:52 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Whereas Saints are owned by a consortium of boy scouts

Honestly, in a week where Wigan, Leeds and Saints have all reported losses, with ours being the smallest of these losses may I add, an attempt at point scoring from Wigan fans towards Saints is truly truly bizarre.

For a group of fans who boast about being "never ignored," you talk about Saints an awful lot.

It wasn't point scoring. It was firmly tongue in cheek. Ours didn't make the headlines. I think the 2024 season might be the last as an entertaining spectacle. We (the game) are being ran into the ground by our paymasters (Sky) but the powers that be roll over and let it happen. We allow the games rules to be changed to a point where it doesn't look like RL anymore and we keep being fed 'Nobody would insure us' yet Boxing and basically street fighting (MMA) have no issues and are raking it in. Eddie Hearn wanted to come on board and he was quietly nudged away. he saw something that could grow and now we are stuck with what we have. ALL the clubs are losing money, next season they basically aren't allowed to tackle each other, the revenue is going down, crowds aren't improving and IMG are doing sod all either. We are reaching the end.

Re: Saints (h) : Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:45 pm  

Zig wrote:

So no MPs or anybody from the House of Lords was involved then?

Lost me on that one?

Re: Saints (h) : Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:33 pm  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

It wasn't point scoring. It was firmly tongue in cheek. Ours didn't make the headlines. I think the 2024 season might be the last as an entertaining spectacle. We (the game) are being ran into the ground by our paymasters (Sky) but the powers that be roll over and let it happen. We allow the games rules to be changed to a point where it doesn't look like RL anymore and we keep being fed 'Nobody would insure us' yet Boxing and basically street fighting (MMA) have no issues and are raking it in. Eddie Hearn wanted to come on board and he was quietly nudged away. he saw something that could grow and now we are stuck with what we have. ALL the clubs are losing money, [b]next season they basically aren't allowed to tackle each other,[/b] the revenue is going down, crowds aren't improving and IMG are doing sod all either. We are reaching the end.

Thats been scrapped hasn't it???

Re: Saints (h) : Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:27 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Lost me on that one?

Sorry mate, many of those who sit in the two Houses made plenty of dosh from COVID.

Re: Saints (h) : Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:57 am  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

It wasn't point scoring. It was firmly tongue in cheek. Ours didn't make the headlines. I think the 2024 season might be the last as an entertaining spectacle. We (the game) are being ran into the ground by our paymasters (Sky) but the powers that be roll over and let it happen. We allow the games rules to be changed to a point where it doesn't look like RL anymore and we keep being fed 'Nobody would insure us' yet Boxing and basically street fighting (MMA) have no issues and are raking it in. Eddie Hearn wanted to come on board and he was quietly nudged away. he saw something that could grow and now we are stuck with what we have. ALL the clubs are losing money, next season they basically aren't allowed to tackle each other, the revenue is going down, crowds aren't improving and IMG are doing sod all either. We are reaching the end.

Oh behave - They are in a cage, there are rules, gloves, weight classes, drug testing, athletic commissions.

Re: Saints (h) : Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:54 am  

bazdev wrote: Thats been scrapped hasn't it??? Seems to be a maybe depending on how discussions go after the end of the season. This article is literally the only thing i could find on it which is odd. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... his%20year.

bazdev wrote: Thats been scrapped hasn't it??? Seems to be a maybe depending on how discussions go after the end of the season. This article is literally the only thing i could find on it which is odd. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... his%20year.

Re: Saints (h) : Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:56 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Oh behave - They are in a cage, there are rules, gloves, weight classes, drug testing, athletic commissions.

Not what i would call gloves, kicks and knees to the head, beating your opponent to a pulp until they are knocked out and bleeding out everywhere. Some sport that. Regardless of what I think of it though. They aren't struggling to be insured and the competitiors of it will be fit for nothing in 20 years.

Re: Saints (h) : Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:07 am  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

Not what i would call gloves, kicks and knees to the head, beating your opponent to a pulp until they are knocked out and bleeding out everywhere. Some sport that. Regardless of what I think of it though. They aren't struggling to be insured and the competitiors of it will be fit for nothing in 20 years.

The main difference is that there has been no change of perception recently. Combat sports have always been subject to big insurance risks and disclaimers so boxing and mma aren't suddenly having to react to massive new bills. For rugby, while there has always been an argument of "they know the risks", the risks people mostly associated with it were to mobility, risks of breaks, hip replacements, knee replacements and so on. With a couple of big lawsuits there is a sudden new financial risk due to dementia, which means insurers that used to deal with the sport have run away and the ones that have stayed are raising premiums at a time when the sport has no money to cope with new expenses. The same is happening down under, but the NRL has the money to cope with some additional expense, and the profile to attract more insurers, so it doesn't have the same effect.

Long term I expect this to settle down a bit but, for now, it's a real challenge for the game over here.