Matty Peet : Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:25 pm  

Wigan's greatest ever coach?

Imo, he's now passed Wane and is up there with Monie, Madge and Lowe. What a ride we've been on. I hope he turns into our Shankley, Fergie, Bellamy etc.

Unfancied to undeniable

Re: Matty Peet : Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:08 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Wigan's greatest ever coach?

Imo, he's now passed Wane and is up there with Monie, Madge and Lowe. What a ride we've been on. I hope he turns into our Shankley, Fergie, Bellamy etc.

Unfancied to undeniable

Tricky question and I’m just undecided at the moment.

Could Wane or Peet of achieved what they have had they taken over directly from Brian Noble?

I see so much of what Madge instilled in the current Wigan team & culture.

The succession plan has been sublime but It was Madge who set the platform for what we have seen since.

Not taking anything away from Peet, he’s clearly doing a great job but to be regarded as Wigans greatest is a stretch at the moment.

Re: Matty Peet : Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:14 pm  

He's got a great opportunity over the next few years to be known as Wigan's best.

Re: Matty Peet : Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:43 am  

Madge was instrumental in the revival of the club. Taking that group of underperformers and strolling to the league and grand final in his 1st season was an incredible achievement . I don't known f his methods were sustainable though. He hasn't had a period of sustained success.

We won't ever know if Peet is capable of turning a club around like Madge did unless he gets bored at Wigan and decides he needs to test himself by taking on a project club.

It is probably too early to say Peet is our best ever coach. He definitely has potential to be. The spirit in the team is better than I have ever seen. The players seem to genuinely love Peet, and the relationships within the team seem really strong too which stems from the culture Peet has instilled. That says to me that theres a good chance that the success we've had is sustainable over the long term. Peet could well be our Fergie

Re: Matty Peet : Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:10 am  

Too early yet but it’s some start. The rebuild of the side since Lam has been so impressive, so whoever is responsible for choosing who to target and bring in deserves huge credit. I presume Peet plays a massive part in that. We needed centres, we got King, Wardle and Keighran. We needed props, we got Dupree, Thompson, Ellis, Cooper etc. It’s been pinpoint and a roaring success, that has helped fill the holes in the team.

Re: Matty Peet : Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:18 pm  

The problem Peet will face, which the likes of Lowe and Monie never did, is the struggle to keep his team together.

Lowe and Monie constructed a dynasty based around the Hanley, Gregory and Edwards triumvirate, which progressed through various configurations, with most of the key individuals - not just the pivots, but star forwards, wideout attackers etc - remaining in Cherry and White until they were veterans.

Unfortunately, Peet will have a hard battle getting long-term quality out of the likes of Smith, Nsemba, Havard etc, as the NRL will pinch them before they even reach their peak. And then he'll have to do the whole thing all over again.

Re: Matty Peet : Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:06 pm  

Mark of the best coaches though is that they can break a team up and do it again a couple of years later thats the acid test that Peet will face in due course hes got to decide if certain players such as Hampshire are blocking the up and coming kids, how long now does he keep Keirghan?these are questions that are immediate future that he has to grasp, yes Eckersley is still young but hes not been out of place in the games hes played..these tough questions are coming now and it'll be interesting to see how Peet handles it all.

Rather well I suspect

Re: Matty Peet : Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:17 pm  

Stranger wrote:

Mark of the best coaches though is that they can break a team up and do it again a couple of years later thats the acid test that Peet will face in due course hes got to decide if certain players such as Hampshire are blocking the up and coming kids, how long now does he keep Keirghan?these are questions that are immediate future that he has to grasp, yes Eckersley is still young but hes not been out of place in the games hes played..these tough questions are coming now and it'll be interesting to see how Peet handles it all.

Rather well I suspect

Agreed and sometimes it may mean cutting ties with a player who may have another year in them to ensure that younger players get their opportunity for a longer run. An example would be Mike Cooper who's shown in the big games this year that he's still high quality but maybe the right time for him to move on at the end of the year so Harvie Hill gets his time. Isa the same for Nsemba. Hampshire for Farrimond.

The Keighran/Eckersley battle will be interesting over the next couple of years.

Re: Matty Peet : Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:31 am  

MadDogg wrote:

Agreed and sometimes it may mean cutting ties with a player who may have another year in them to ensure that younger players get their opportunity for a longer run. An example would be Mike Cooper who's shown in the big games this year that he's still high quality but maybe the right time for him to move on at the end of the year so Harvie Hill gets his time. Isa the same for Nsemba. Hampshire for Farrimond.

The Keighran/Eckersley battle will be interesting over the next couple of years.

But we need to maintain a strong squad to ensure that there is competition for places.

Re: Matty Peet : Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:29 am  

Cruncher wrote:

The problem Peet will face, which the likes of Lowe and Monie never did, is the struggle to keep his team together.

Lowe and Monie constructed a dynasty based around the Hanley, Gregory and Edwards triumvirate, which progressed through various configurations, with most of the key individuals - not just the pivots, but star forwards, wideout attackers etc - remaining in Cherry and White until they were veterans.

Unfortunately, Peet will have a hard battle getting long-term quality out of the likes of Smith, Nsemba, Havard etc, as the NRL will pinch them before they even reach their peak. And then he'll have to do the whole thing all over again.

I think one of the biggest successes under Peet is the clarity of our succession planning.

We have players like Walters, Eseh, Hill, Eckersley who all at other clubs are in the 17 every week, plus the likes of Douglas and Farrimond riding hard on the rails behind them.

This for me is a big part of future proofing the club as part of those risks and challenges of keeping the team together.

We lose KPP and Smithies last year and it’s the reality is as a team we have not missed a beat.

Second row is my area of concern moving forward with Faz and Isa clearly at the back end if their career and obviously risks over our ability to retain Nsemba who is bound to attract interest. I’m not seeing too much depth in the club beyond that beyond Walters and maybe the Chan project as we look to adapt him to be more comfortable in that department.