: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:54 am  

- Neil - wrote:

It is nice to see a thread praising a O'Loughlin for once as he gets alot of undeserved stick on these boards and on the terraces.

I thought he deserved one Hes class

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:39 am  

Captain13 wrote:

I wish you were in Cyprus too!

This is 2009! Yes we have had some great Captains but................... i/we dont really get your point from your post mate!

He was suggesting Lockers is actually a good captain but is unfairly compared by some to the previous players who performed his current role?

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:06 am  

Is the penny finally dropping that Lockers is actually a hardworking, quality player who Wigan fans should be backing rather than comparing to legends the like of which no SL team currently has, let alone Wigan?

Or have the Lockers knockers just gone to ground for a while and the people on this thread are just the sensible ones who realised the truth all along

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:18 am  

[DaveO]

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:49 am  

Deano G wrote:

:shock:

Is the penny finally dropping that Lockers is actually a hardworking, quality player who Wigan fans should be backing rather than comparing to legends the like of which no SL team currently has, let alone Wigan?

Correct Lockers is a good hard working player, nothing more

Or have the Lockers knockers just gone to ground for a while and the people on this thread are just the sensible ones who realised the truth all along

He is a good player but not a good captain IMO. The comments from Noble paraphrase what most of the Lockers fans say on here i.e.

"If you're looking for a captain, sometimes it is not a great orator you need, it is somebody who is prepared to roll his sleeves up and get stuck in."

So basically our coach thinks Lockers (to coin an overused phrase) leads by example. I don't agree with Noble and have never agreed with this opinion no matter who trots it out because why can't you have both a great orator and a player who gets stuck in? Surely that is the complete captain.

Our team has needed the "great orator" quite a few times over the last two seasons, in several games this season as well and before anyone says our players should be more professional and not need organising etc, the fact is they do.

The "leads by example" captain is a luxury successful teams can afford. Sinfield at Leeds and Joynt when he was at Saints don't and didn't need to be vocal because their teams are/were very successful. Ours isn't.

Mind you this all stems from a statement made by Noble who last week was saying it is all about ability and not age when talking about S Tomkins and Ainscough which is the exact opposite of what he said last season when he was trotting out "duty of care" excuses for not playing them so I take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

Dave

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:27 pm  

I persoanally have always been a big fan of Lockys, if not his biggest fan

I think every team needs a player like him in the team. Look at Leeds with JJB. He is another who i would take in a flash. They do all the ugly hard work (which 80% of rugby fans dont notice) and it kind of annoys me. Locky would have IMO finished top tackler in the league last year had it not been for his injury. I have noticed a big improvment in his ability to join the line this season though aswell, kind of like when he first broke into the first team. Lets hope he keeps up his good form as hes deffinatly been in the top 3 most consistant players sp far this season

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:33 pm  

No complaints about Lockers from me. Been one of our most consistent players for years now (when he's been fit).

Very important to our team imo, especially in terms of defensive structure.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:33 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Correct Lockers is a good hard working player, nothing more



He is a good player but not a good captain IMO. The comments from Noble paraphrase what most of the Lockers fans say on here i.e.

"If you're looking for a captain, sometimes it is not a great orator you need, it is somebody who is prepared to roll his sleeves up and get stuck in."

So basically our coach thinks Lockers (to coin an overused phrase) leads by example. I don't agree with Noble and have never agreed with this opinion no matter who trots it out because why can't you have both a great orator and a player who gets stuck in? Surely that is the complete captain.

Our team has needed the "great orator" quite a few times over the last two seasons, in several games this season as well and before anyone says our players should be more professional and not need organising etc, the fact is they do.

The "leads by example" captain is a luxury successful teams can afford. Sinfield at Leeds and Joynt when he was at Saints don't and didn't need to be vocal because their teams are/were very successful. Ours isn't.

Mind you this all stems from a statement made by Noble who last week was saying it is all about ability and not age when talking about S Tomkins and Ainscough which is the exact opposite of what he said last season when he was trotting out "duty of care" excuses for not playing them so I take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

Dave

Almost the perfect thread for you, Dave. You can knock both of your pet hates in one go! If only there was some praise for Higham in that piece...

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:37 pm  

who else would you have as captain?

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:34 pm  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

who else would you have as captain?

Fielden