: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:54 pm  

i just haven't seen enough out of coley for me to rate him.

if he wasn't in the team or injured would we notice much?

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:54 pm  

Hansen can tackle. doesn't offer much else. give the others a shot.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:00 pm  

may i add i agree to give others a chance, especially this weekend. Just make sure that we are respectful and get the job done at the same time.

with everyone drawing each other in the cup, this is our best chance for years of possibly winning it or at least getting to the final. Very similar to portsmouth winning the FA cup last year.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:01 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Hansen can tackle. doesn't offer much else. give the others a shot.

Hanson is a quality player he does more than just tackle.

He runs some great lines and has no fear, he always puts the effort in, he is one of my favourite players as a fan.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:49 pm  

Give Mossop a game against Barrow and rest Hock and Joel for Saints and Catalans and if Mossop impresses against Barrow and continues well in the reserves give him a go against Celtic who we have at home after Catalans

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:23 pm  

Hansen may run strong lines but what is his tackle bust rate? offload rate? Has he ever drawn in a man then pasted the ball along? Ever looked like doing something in attack without someone else putting him through the gap? Far and few between.

He may try hard, but he simply isn't good enough, a quiet lad who tries hard, sorry but this isn't enough. Raise the bar at Wigan, he's not good enough.

I respect people's opinions and I know he's liked by some, but for me he's not good enough.

After Ferrell/Mossop/Flanny has a good game and plays better you'll agree.

For me Hansen (his type of player) is one of the issues with Wigan. Someone who is a 'try hard' but not good enough. Lets build a team of winners.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:26 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Hansen may run strong lines but what is his tackle bust rate? offload rate? Has he ever drawn in a man then pasted the ball along? Ever looked like doing something in attack without someone else putting him through the gap? Far and few between.

He may try hard, but he simply isn't good enough, a quiet lad who tries hard, sorry but this isn't enough. Raise the bar at Wigan, he's not good enough.

I respect people's opinions and I know he's liked by some, but for me he's not good enough.

After Ferrell/Mossop/Flanny has a good game and plays better you'll agree.

For me Hansen (his type of player) is one of the issues with Wigan. Someone who is a 'try hard' but not good enough. Lets build a team of winners.

I agree with you. Might sound harsh as he's clearly a hard worker but people need to keep asking the question - does this player belong in a potential title winning team? I don't know if Hansen does.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:34 pm  

Exactly Mad dog.

Let's build a winning team. Not a team of 'try hards', worse thing is he's keeping out talent that deserves a place.

Build a team of winners

NEW FB
Richards Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins NEW 7
NEW 8 Tommy NEW 10
Farrell Lockers
Tomkins
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Hock Feka Riddell Prescott
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Give Roberts/Pryce/O Carroll time, but so far I don't see a winner.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:51 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Exactly Mad dog.

Let's build a winning team. Not a team of 'try hards', worse thing is he's keeping out talent that deserves a place.

Build a team of winners

NEW FB
Richards Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins NEW 7
NEW 8 Tommy NEW 10
Farrell Lockers
Tomkins
------------
Hock Feka Riddell Prescott
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Give Roberts/Pryce/O Carroll time, but so far I don't see a winner.

You can add a new coach to that list if we wana win anything

I can't see a title challenging team being formed for at least 2 seasons yet though

If we got it right for next season we could do but I can't see it happening

However this gives the youngsters a chance to stake their claim before players are brought in which is a good thing

Whether we like it or not patience is going to be needed

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:03 pm  

Has anyone ever heard the saying "Defense wins games"? Hansen is currently in joint second place for try scoring 2nd rows (Joint 3rd in the team) and offers a huge defensive input to the team. Yet he offers nothing in attack and just because he is defensively brilliant and not doing spectacular things in attack he should be dropped?

I'm glad there's a lot of posters on this site not running the team.