: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:07 am  

Catalancs wrote:

You'll have to fight Russell Crowe for him


Sorry, but having heard him interviewed both this week and after the game Morley seems very happy at Wire and looking forward to big things in the future.
Can see him finishing his 'proper' career there before moving on to Salford for one last sentimental season.

Bring on Russell he's only a film star just don't let him hit me with a phone, I doubt Burgess will go to Souths even though he will be starstruck and over the moon Russell Crowe has asked him but were Souths are from (Redfern?) is a poop hole but compare that to Manly which is really up market and has lovely beaches I know which one I would pick.

I doubt we would get Morley now but if Wire had lost then maybe because they would be firmly labelled as underachievers and incapable of winning anything and then maybe Morley would see the light but I doubt that now but if we offered him an extra year on his contract than Wire he may come to us as this is his last contract and he will be after a long contract.

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:30 am  

post wrote:

Bring on Russell he's only a film star just don't let him hit me with a phone, I doubt Burgess will go to Souths even though he will be starstruck and over the moon Russell Crowe has asked him but were Souths are from (Redfern?) is a poop hole but compare that to Manly which is really up market and has lovely beaches I know which one I would pick.

I doubt we would get Morley now but if Wire had lost then maybe because they would be firmly labelled as underachievers and incapable of winning anything and then maybe Morley would see the light but I doubt that now but if we offered him an extra year on his contract than Wire he may come to us as this is his last contract and he will be after a long contract.

There's nothing to suggest that Wire won't give Morley another 2 years. Which he could manage comfortably IMO. I do agree though, he hasn't signed his extension for next year yet has he? So it would definitely be worth offering him a 2 year deal.

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:06 pm  

I'm sure Morley said on boots n all that he was contracted to Wire until 2011.

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:46 pm  

post wrote:

Bring on Russell he's only a film star just don't let him hit me with a phone, I doubt Burgess will go to Souths even though he will be starstruck and over the moon Russell Crowe has asked him but were Souths are from (Redfern?) is a poop hole but compare that to Manly which is really up market and has lovely beaches I know which one I would pick.
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you never commuted before its not like he is going to live in the koori block redfern is only 5 minutes by car to the opera house-sydney harbour

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:41 pm  

changa wrote:

you never commuted before its not like he is going to live in the koori block redfern is only 5 minutes by car to the opera house-sydney harbour

Can't see him staying in the opera house though.

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:43 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I'm sure Morley said on boots n all that he was contracted to Wire until 2011.

I would not admit to watching that programe on here, I expect better from you

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:05 pm  

A better thread would perhaps be - Players IL hasnt signed for 2010.

: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:27 pm  

Okay so we can't bring in a prop forward at the moment for whatever reason.

But one important change we can make which will have a more significant difference on the side than any signing and probably something we should focus more on in these threads is a change of coach.

Brian Noble has done his duty for me. He saved us from relegation and has took us back up to the top end of the table. But we haven't seen any consistency during the season. We only seem to turn up for half the season and bottle it in the semi-finals. I don see us going any further. So thanks for what you have done here Brian but it's best for both parties to move on.

Just look at what a change of coach has had on the Huddersfield Giants. Look at that Wembley Giants team on paper and compare it to ours. On paper we have the better team but the difference is Nathan Brown is getting the most out of players such as Eorl Crabtree, Keith Mason (imagine what a change of coach could do for Fielden), He's brought out the best from Kevin Brown and Luke Robinson. Huddersfield now do the basics so effectively. He's not afraid to give the young lads a chance. Look at the Saints game for example. I know people will say yeah but you have to take their situation into account. Okay so do you think Brian Noble in the same situation would have put out a team full of youngsters? No.

So Michael McGuire is the latest linked with us. Brilliant people keep giving him good raps. We don't have to have the best team in the competition to win, we have to have the best coached team in the league. Look at last years World Cup. Were New Zealand the best team? Hell no the Aussies were. But were they the best coached team? Yes.

So although we can't bring in any new players or we might not be bringing in any new players it is a disappointment but we can bring in a new coach will have a bigger impact than any player ever will.

Imagine a coach who could get more from Mark Riddell? Amos Roberts? Stuart Fielden? Martin Gleeson etc. Imagine if all these players were playing at their best of their abilitys. We would be a fantastic side.

Who do you think would get more from Mark Riddell - Nathan Brown or Brian Noble?

So although we might be disappointed we can bring in a new coach who could have a bigger impact than any signing we could possibly make.

rl : Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:36 pm  

We may not be bringing any players in for 2010 because the club's finances are a mess. We need to face the reality that the club simply can't afford anyone unless IL pays for them out of his own pocket.
And why should he?
Wigan should be a stand alone financially viable company. At the moment it appears it is further away from that than the squad is from winning a trophy.
It may be the case we have to go in 2010 with what we've got and look to 2011 for signings when money is freed up from contracts and the club's finances are in better shape.
We now have a stable squad with numbers 1-7 sorted unlike the start of this season. The pack has quality and experience and will need to play far better next year. With so many forwards being out of contract end of 2010 we could well see a very improved pack from this year as they will all be playing for new deals.
We also have a good squad for the end of 2009 and the new play offs could help us.
For most of us, especially like me who think we need another prop, we may well have to hold our nerve and see it out!

Re: rl : Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:50 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

We may not be bringing any players in for 2010 because the club's finances are a mess. We need to face the reality that the club simply can't afford anyone unless IL pays for them out of his own pocket.
And why should he?
Wigan should be a stand alone financially viable company. At the moment it appears it is further away from that than the squad is from winning a trophy.
It may be the case we have to go in 2010 with what we've got and look to 2011 for signings when money is freed up from contracts and the club's finances are in better shape.
We now have a stable squad with numbers 1-7 sorted unlike the start of this season. The pack has quality and experience and will need to play far better next year. With so many forwards being out of contract end of 2010 we could well see a very improved pack from this year as they will all be playing for new deals.
We also have a good squad for the end of 2009 and the new play offs could help us.
For most of us, especially like me who think we need another prop, we may well have to hold our nerve and see it out!

Who in the competition is making a profit? To my knowledge no one, plus I would bet Lenegan knew when he took over that some of his own money would have to be put into the club.
Saints the most successful club in superleague are in somewhat of a mess financially yet McManus has used his own money to fund the club to great success. It's not a question of Lenegan being tight or the club having no profit to spend, It's simply down to the fact we have no room on the salary cap as to the explanation for no signings in 2011.