Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:09 pm  

AS108 wrote:

Great but I’ll stick with Percival having 16 more try involvements along with everything else, over someone’s opinion.

Fine, and I'll stick with the image of Gildart going past last seasons Man of Steel as if someone had plonked a dustbin at fullback.

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:39 pm  

AS108 wrote:

Obviously but the validity of his opinion is irrelevant. The point is statistics are fact and they carry more weight than one persons opinion and the statistics clearly show Percival is considerably better than Gildart.

So how do you compare statistics of 2 people playing in completely different teams then? You do understand the nature of statistics, don't you? Without a constant they are completely meaningless. Wayne Bennett's opinion, on the other hand, was based on having them both in the same set up vying for a place in the same team with the same personnel and structures. He chose Gildart. Now do you get it?

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Fine, and I'll stick with the image of Gildart going past last seasons Man of Steel as if someone had plonked a dustbin at fullback.

And Saints fans will stick with the images of Wigan fans watching Saints in the Challenge Cup final,picking up the LLS again and watching the playoff series from your armchairs..You will moan about the LLS meaning nothing but it shows weve been the most consistent team over 2 years and banked the £100k that goes with it.You wouldnt be bothered about the trophy but your chairman would love the money as ,if reports are to be believed your skint...

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:55 pm  

saintnickle34 wrote:

And Saints fans will stick with the images of Wigan fans watching Saints in the Challenge Cup final,picking up the LLS again and watching the playoff series from your armchairs..You will moan about the LLS meaning nothing but it shows weve been the most consistent team over 2 years and banked the £100k that goes with it.You wouldnt be bothered about the trophy but your chairman would love the money as ,if reports are to be believed your skint...

Well I'll most certainly watch Saints in the final just for the novelty value, after all it's been a very long time since you've been in one.

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:27 pm  

AS108 wrote:

Great but I’ll stick with Percival having 16 more try involvements along with everything else, over someone’s opinion.

....ill stick to Gildart being involved with the team winning the grand final

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:34 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Fine, and I'll stick with the image of Gildart going past last seasons Man of Steel as if someone had plonked a dustbin at fullback.

If your running at full pelt with acres of space either side of someone who is basically stood still, of course you’re going to go past them.

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:52 pm  

AS108 wrote:

If your running at full pelt with acres of space either side of someone who is basically stood still, of course you’re going to go past them.

Really? I seem to recall Regan Grace in exactly the same situation with a support player inside him, yet bundled into touch by the covering Sam Tomkins!

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:27 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

So how do you compare statistics of 2 people playing in completely different teams then? You do understand the nature of statistics, don't you? Without a constant they are completely meaningless. Wayne Bennett's opinion, on the other hand, was based on having them both in the same set up vying for a place in the same team with the same personnel and structures. He chose Gildart. Now do you get it?

That’s a load of nonsense. Should we get rid of the top try scorer award because everyone plays in completely different teams? Their stats are absolutely comparable, they both play centre and face the same opposition and given how good this Wigan squad is, Gildart is of no disadvantage in that regard. Literally your only argument for Gildart being better is that Bennett picked him which is a poor argument because he was rubbish anyway, apart from one try.

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:28 am  

apollosghost wrote:

Arguably the most successful coach in RL history, I believe his opinion is valid.

He also thought Josh Hodgson was a better hooker than Roby so I wouldn’t get too excited about his opinion.

Gildart is a quality player though.

Re: Why do Saints look unbeatable? : Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:32 am  

lol even when they are in a relegation battle, Wigan fans still claim they are the best team in the league