Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:25 am  

sergeant pepper wrote: I find the whole announcement thing a little baffling - Hastings is even quoted in the press release https://wiganwarriors.com/news/2019-07-08-hastings-to-become-a-warrior That was in July. He's been and still is back 'down under' now. He's put himself in the 'shop window' here last season, and he 'thinks' some Sydney club will sign him, as that is what he really wishes for. Frustrating !

sergeant pepper wrote: I find the whole announcement thing a little baffling - Hastings is even quoted in the press release https://wiganwarriors.com/news/2019-07-08-hastings-to-become-a-warrior That was in July. He's been and still is back 'down under' now. He's put himself in the 'shop window' here last season, and he 'thinks' some Sydney club will sign him, as that is what he really wishes for. Frustrating !

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:27 am  

I see that yet again lots of us are automatically assuming that Wigan are at fault.

Could it not just be that Hastings - like Shaun Edwards - is basically a bit thick?

He signed a contract and was quoted in the press as looking forward to coming.

Edwards had wriggle room because it was a handshake deal. It still demonstrated an astonishing lack of self-awareness on his part, but legally it was sound. Hastings does not have that leeway, and yet still he's trying it on. You've got to wonder if off the rugby field there's actually not much of a brain in that head.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 am  

RichieS wrote:

If Zak leaves (and ends up back at Cas) then I am more than sure Grimmy will honor the £200 to Joining Jack and should he be at Wigan on day one of the 2020 season my first post back on here will be to confirm I have paid mine

A reminder whilst we're on the topic of your inside knowledge of disgruntled players

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:06 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I see that yet again lots of us are automatically assuming that Wigan are at fault.

Could it not just be that Hastings - like Shaun Edwards - is basically a bit thick?

He signed a contract and was quoted in the press as looking forward to coming.

Edwards had wriggle room because it was a handshake deal. It still demonstrated an astonishing lack of self-awareness on his part, but legally it was sound. Hastings does not have that leeway, and yet still he's trying it on. You've got to wonder if off the rugby field there's actually not much of a brain in that head.

Bit thick? If anyone was a 'bit thick' it was IL or the clubs legal team not ensuring all the i's were dotted and t's were crossed before parading Edwards around the pitch and having him interviewed before securing him as a coach. But that's all in the past.

I think there's more to the Hastings story in terms of 'who's in the right and who's in the wrong' currently. But as they say; there's no smoke without fire and Hastings is currently failing to address any of it and put the negative rumours to bed; that's telling.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:09 am  

fanstanningley wrote:

Do they have a marquee place?

No they don't. Their 2 marquee spots are taken by SBW and Ricky Leutele.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:51 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Bit thick? If anyone was a 'bit thick' it was IL or the clubs legal team not ensuring all the i's were dotted and t's were crossed before parading Edwards around the pitch and having him interviewed before securing him as a coach. But that's all in the past.

I think there's more to the Hastings story in terms of 'who's in the right and who's in the wrong' currently. But as they say; there's no smoke without fire and Hastings is currently failing to address any of it and put the negative rumours to bed; that's telling.

Let's not pretend there wasn't an awful lot of deception going on from Shaun Edwards too. He made every indication on a global platform that he was coming to us. But all that's been said and it's not worth raking up again.

If Wigan have been thick over Jackson Hastings, then I'm sure that will come out. But at present there's only one person behaving badly on that front. If he didn't want to sign for us, he shouldn't have done it. No one twisted his arm.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:52 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

No they don't. Their 2 marquee spots are taken by SBW and Ricky Leutele.

They could just employ him on minimum wage and then get his mum working in the canteen for £250k a year. I'm sure that won't be the first time a club has done something similar.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:24 am  

Grimmy wrote:

A reminder whilst we're on the topic of your inside knowledge of disgruntled players

You seem to enjoy delving through old posts buddy and selectively posting to suit your agenda. The original topic regards this comment was Zak feeling a little unsettled and open to move away from the Club. None of that was fabrication, Wigan didn't want to let him go, Castleford simply couldn't afford him and Leeds (Kevin Sinfield) wanted nothing to do with him. Once the reality set in that it was Wigan or nothing, I spoke with him one to one and he assured me he was knuckling down and would make it work, which he has. His girlfriend moving over, the GB call-up and his friends over in Yorkshire have all made a massive difference in the whole scenario and I am glad he looks settled. I post that too if I remember rightly (but I am sure you already know this!). I will happily send over the £200 to Joining Jack, no issue at all. I did say at the time it was win-win for the Charity and that suits me.

Jacko has made no secret of his regret at the whole him leaving saga. If he had held off agreeing a deal with us, no doubt in my mind he would still be a Salford player given there financial status now. He gave a set mandate for how he wanted the situation dealt with, nothing Diva-ish at all, he just wanted the season to play out and be announced as a Wigan player once it was finished. Of the few people I trust that know Jacko well, the main concern is how he fits in at the club with its leadership structure, he is a big character and how he handles not been the "messiah" will be interesting, if of course he honors the deal.

So for Grimmys little book of knowledge, I am not stating have any inside information on Jackson Hastings' plans. I am merely stating that the club in Jacksons eyes breached the contract by announcing the deal before the date agreed. He is refusing to acknowledge his move to the club to the press or in general and the only interaction to his friends or fans on social media towards Wigan is negative.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:29 am  

RichieS wrote:

You seem to enjoy delving through old posts buddy and selectively posting to suit your agenda. The original topic regards this comment was Zak feeling a little unsettled and open to move away from the Club. None of that was fabrication, Wigan didn't want to let him go, Castleford simply couldn't afford him and Leeds (Kevin Sinfield) wanted nothing to do with him. Once the reality set in that it was Wigan or nothing, I spoke with him one to one and he assured me he was knuckling down and would make it work, which he has. His girlfriend moving over, the GB call-up and his friends over in Yorkshire have all made a massive difference in the whole scenario and I am glad he looks settled. I post that too if I remember rightly (but I am sure you already know this!). I will happily send over the £200 to Joining Jack, no issue at all. I did say at the time it was win-win for the Charity and that suits me.

Jacko has made no secret of his regret at the whole him leaving saga. If he had held off agreeing a deal with us, no doubt in my mind he would still be a Salford player given there financial status now. He gave a set mandate for how he wanted the situation dealt with, nothing Diva-ish at all, he just wanted the season to play out and be announced as a Wigan player once it was finished. Of the few people I trust that know Jacko well, the main concern is how he fits in at the club with its leadership structure, he is a big character and how he handles not been the "messiah" will be interesting, if of course he honors the deal.

So for Grimmys little book of knowledge, I am not stating have any inside information on Jackson Hastings' plans. I am merely stating that the club in Jacksons eyes breached the contract by announcing the deal before the date agreed. He is refusing to acknowledge his move to the club to the press or in general and the only interaction to his friends or fans on social media towards Wigan is negative.

Alright calm down I just can't help but feel we're making something out of nothing. I can understand him wanting to enjoy his off season with family and friends in Aus rather than acting as rumour control. Someone might correct me but I'm almost certain I can remember overseas players even missing the first friendly in the past because we've allowed them a bit longer back home during the off season.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:36 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Alright calm down I just can't help but feel we're making something out of nothing. I can understand him wanting to enjoy his off season with family and friends in Aus rather than acting as rumour control. Someone might correct me but I'm almost certain I can remember overseas players even missing the first friendly in the past because we've allowed them a bit longer back home during the off season.

Grimmy, the club can shut this down in a heartbeat by contacting Jackson Hastings and asking him to make a statement. Why do you imagine that hasn't happened as yet? Maybe because the relationship has soured since they vexed him off and he is unlikely to even accept a call from KR or IL.