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| Matt Srama, Gold Coast Titans is going to be a superstar.
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"While Paddy is solid at Full Back, he lacks the ball skills to link in the line like Sam does. Now King & Richards Centre & Wing partnership would be epic.'"
You may as well point to the scoreboard any time a high kick goes to their wing.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"You may as well point to the scoreboard any time a high kick goes to their wing.'"
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| Surely if Matt King comes to Wigan he will get the 3 shirt with Josh as his wingman. George and Pat to continue at 4 and 5.
That would allow Joel to return to the second row and be our right sided 2nd rower.
Should Coley retire then our props would be Fielden, Lima, Prescott, Mossop plus Crosby Davies and Spencer. Maybe also O'Carroll.
The back row would consist of Joel, HH, Hock, Lockers, Faz, Tuson & Hughes.
That looks like a very good pack after allowing for Coley and Hoffman's departure.
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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"If Sculthorpe is indeed announced as the assistant to Wane it'll be be bizarre appointment IMO. Not a wrong one, as they may turn out to be a fantastic coaching team, and what ever they'll have my full backing. It's just that I, and a lot on here have the opinion that for Wane to succeed he'd need an experienced man by his side. We'll have gone the complete opposite direction of that, to a man who to my knowledge has very little coaching experience.
What I'd love to know, and hopefully we'll hear if this turns out to be true. Is why Sculthoroe was selected? Was he sounded out by Wane and Lenegan? Or did he approach Wigan about the deal? And then what in particular got him the deal? Because it can't be a track record of coaching success. Maybe he gave a cracking interview and that won Lenegan over? What ever, I hope we hear the reasons why Lenegan chose Sculthorpe.
I also hope the announcement of Sculthorpe as assistant doesn't over shadow the announcement of Wane as head coach, that would be terribly unfair on Shaun.
This may turn out to be another excellent decision from Lenegan, and I really hope it is. Sometimes it is better to go left field rather than like for like when replacing someone.
As for Amos to Quins. From what I saw on Tuesday night they'd be better off with King. Still if this loan deal leads to Amos seeking a request to leave Wigan at the end of the season a year early, I won't complain.'"
I would think Wane himself would be seeking the appointment of Sculthorpe. It is important that he picks his number 2. Rugby League is a very small pond and I am sure Wane and Sculthorpe will be friends away from the field and Wane probably likes the qualities he sees in Sculthorpe and feels he will do a great job alongside him.
They will not have sat down and plucked his name out of thin air as a possible target, there must be some long standing history away from the spotlight between the 2.
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| If Sculthorpe is appointed at least the club will save themselves paying travelling expenses. Scully can walk to the ground from where he lives.
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| no matter who signs, i was sammy bk in the halves
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"If Sculthorpe is appointed at least the club will save themselves paying travelling expenses. Scully can walk to the ground from where he lives.'"
Done deal.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Done deal.'"
where is this done deal coming from?
(sorry being a stupid fan here i dont want ne1 or nething ever at the club to do with st helens)
(oh except connolly)
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| Quote truewiganer="truewiganer"where is this done deal coming from?
(sorry being a stupid fan here i dont want ne1 or nething ever at the club to do with st helens)
(oh except connolly)'"
Oh dear...
Worth it just to know how much it will sicken the Saints fans... I would imagine they will find it stranger than we do. The lack of any noticable coaching experience is my only concern.
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| oh dear?
bit condescending there,
i dont, im sure many of the saints fans wouldnt want anyone or anything from wigan.
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"If Matt King goes to Wigan, i think he'd replace Pat on the wing who would be shifted to fullback and Sam would go back in the halves'"
Is there anything really in this, or is it all just hearsay about King?
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"Is there anything really in this, or is it all just hearsay about King?'"
Not seen anything deffo... Just talk i reckon.
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| Quote truewiganer="truewiganer"oh dear?
bit condescending there,
i dont, im sure many of the saints fans wouldnt want anyone or anything from wigan.'"
Yes i was condescending... You make a statement about Saints, then give an exception. Just looked a little silly.
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| i grew up watching connolly for wigan, not really knowing about his dark dark past,
but i also grew up hating scully, wouldnt want him near a wigan team, just for the pure fact he is mr st helens,
the coupled with i really dont think he should be given the chance after being a buisness manager at saints and not really doing much if any proper coaching,
having wayne as the main man next year is a big enough gamble for me, y make it even harder by having a guy who has never been a assistant, or coach at the lower level for very long ,
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| Quote truewiganer="truewiganer"i grew up watching connolly for wigan, not really knowing about his dark dark past,
but i also grew up hating scully, wouldnt want him near a wigan team, just for the pure fact he is mr st helens,
the coupled with i really dont think he should be given the chance after being a buisness manager at saints and not really doing much if any proper coaching,
having wayne as the main man next year is a big enough gamble for me, y make it even harder by having a guy who has never been a assistant, or coach at the lower level for very long ,'"
The problem is finding a quality assistant. We couldn't get an Aussie because of work permit problems. We won't be able to get an SL team coach to come and be an assistant, effectively dropping down. And there's no one at the club to promote to that position. I'm happy to just run with whatever IL decides and get on with it.
What I have been told is Scully has been approached by Wigan's prospective coach rather than Scully approaching Wigan or IL approaching Scully. This in itself is good as the coach is picking who he works with rather than being told who he'll be working with. Scully is/was a leader and a bloody good one at that. He's ranked up there with Farrell and no one would complain if [ihe[/i came back. I know he's now got coaching experience but from what I've heard he was taking training sessions whilst he was a player at Wigan anyway. Who's to say Scully wasn't doing that?
I'm actually quite excited to see what a relatively young (experience wise) coaching partnership could achieve
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"The problem is finding a quality assistant. We couldn't get an Aussie because of work permit problems. We won't be able to get an SL team coach to come and be an assistant, effectively dropping down. And there's no one at the club to promote to that position. I'm happy to just run with whatever IL decides and get on with it.
What I have been told is Scully has been approached by Wigan's prospective coach rather than Scully approaching Wigan or IL approaching Scully. This in itself is good as the coach is picking who he works with rather than being told who he'll be working with. Scully is/was a leader and a bloody good one at that. He's ranked up there with Farrell and no one would complain if [ihe[/i came back. I know he's now got coaching experience but from what I've heard he was taking training sessions whilst he was a player at Wigan anyway. Who's to say Scully wasn't doing that?
I'm actually quite excited to see what a relatively young (experience wise) coaching partnership could achieve'"
Agree 100% with this and also the likely circumstances to which he is being appointed, only bit I find offensive is the bit in bold. Great player but no Faz...............
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Agree 100% with this and also the likely circumstances to which he is being appointed, only bit I find offensive is the bit in bold. Great player but no Faz...............'"
What I meant was, he's St Helens' Farrell. 
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"Surely if Matt King comes to Wigan he will get the 3 shirt with Josh as his wingman. George and Pat to continue at 4 and 5.
That would allow Joel to return to the second row and be our right sided 2nd rower. '"
I'd be very happy with that. All we need is Matt King to sign and George Carmont to stay for another year! Although I would consider swapping King and Charnley around. Still with Sam, King, Charnley, Carmont and Richards that would be a top backline with the resources available to us.
Quote Father TedShould Coley retire then our props would be Fielden, Lima, Prescott, Mossop plus Crosby Davies and Spencer. Maybe also O'Carroll.
The back row would consist of Joel, HH, Hock, Lockers, Faz, Tuson & Hughes.
That looks like a very good pack after allowing for Coley and Hoffman's departure.'"
I'd possibly like to recruit another prop, but we may have to spend our resources elsewhere. Halfback and hooker will depend on where Wane/Scully see Thomas Leuluai better off at. IMO it would be at hooker. Two scenarios:
First option
Brett Finch
Thomas Leuluai
Mike McIlorum
Joe Mellor
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Brett Finch
Joe Mellor
Thomas Leuluai
Mike McIlorum
Unless of course we can recruit a halfback or a hooker.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"What I meant was, he's St Helens' Farrell.
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That's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"I'd be very happy with that. All we need is Matt King to sign and George Carmont to stay for another year! Although I would consider swapping King and Charnley around. Still with Sam, King, Charnley, Carmont and Richards that would be a top backline with the resources available to us.
I'd possibly like to recruit another prop, but we may have to spend our resources elsewhere. Halfback and hooker will depend on where Wane/Scully see Thomas Leuluai better off at. IMO it would be at hooker. Two scenarios:
First option
Brett Finch
Thomas Leuluai
Mike McIlorum
Joe Mellor
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Brett Finch
Joe Mellor
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Mike McIlorum
Unless of course we can recruit a halfback or a hooker.'"
Hooker and centre have and would still be my priorities for 2012.
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| Scully's passing game was far superior to Farrell in my opinion. But that's where it stops.
When it came to kicking, defence, workrate, leadership, discipline - Farrell all the way.
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| I think the Sculthorpe move is a good one. Ok he is not a current assistant coach but no one is until they start somewhere.
As for being Mr St. Helens, he is from Oldham, played for Warrington, has lived in Wigan for many years and was transferred to Saints for a record transfer fee.
Hold on that can't be right because Wigan signed all the top players so no one else could have them. 
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"I'd be very happy with that. All we need is Matt King to sign and George Carmont to stay for another year! Although I would consider swapping King and Charnley around. Still with Sam, King, Charnley, Carmont and Richards that would be a top backline with the resources available to us.
I'd possibly like to recruit another prop, but we may have to spend our resources elsewhere. Halfback and hooker will depend on where Wane/Scully see Thomas Leuluai better off at. IMO it would be at hooker. Two scenarios:
First option
Brett Finch
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Mike McIlorum
Joe Mellor
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Brett Finch
Joe Mellor
Thomas Leuluai
Mike McIlorum
Unless of course we can recruit a halfback or a hooker.'"
Option 2 for me. I like the contrast between Finch and Mellor at HB, together they provide everything you want out of any any good HB combination. Plus it allows Tommy to stay at 9, his best position.
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