Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:37 am  

hatty wrote:

Didn't we beat Brisbane with the majority of our pack missing as well? I know we had a few injuries going into the game for sure.

Aye, we were decimated if I remember correctly.

On a side note-Adam Keighran has been given a one game ban. I think he can use that in a friendly, so he should be ok for the first league game of 2024.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:43 am  

hatty wrote:

Didn't we beat Brisbane with the majority of our pack missing as well? I know we had a few injuries going into the game for sure.

No Bell, Skerrett or Platt and Dermott really shouldn't have played but managed about 20mins before Hall came on

Mcginty (a pretty small 2nd rower never mind prop) Started prop with Cowie and with no other props available Mick Cassidy did some time there as well

When you consider Brisbane had Lazarus and Andrew Gee starting With another prop and 2 back rowers on the bench its astonishing

Betts, Farrell were great that day and Phil Clarke was Outstanding

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:43 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

The defence from both teams was outstanding. If that had been 2 NRL teams people would have been waxing lyrical about how much better the NRL teams are defensively. Because it's 2 Superleague teams it's boring

We talk down our comp too readily. It was a final. If the teams had thrown it around it would have been used as an example of how naïve the Superleague is and how that wouldn't work against well drilled NRL teams. Play it tight and the teams "have no ideas in attack".

This obsession with talking our own game down no matter what is simply bizarre!

Fully agree.

It was all very weird after the Saints v Catalans semi, with people saying it was a dreadful game. I thought it was a fantastic game and occasion. Tight, tense games, where defences are on top are better than teams going try for try IMO.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:44 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

It’s been absolutely hilarious! Some bloke who does Red Vee TV now and again tweeted they’d have butchered both sides

Presume he’s been sleeping during Saints games this past few months. They haven’t got a butchering in them against anybody, let alone the two sides on Saturday, defending like that. I can’t recall many scoring opportunities for Saints in the semi outside of the try for Hopoate. Wigan on Saturday created loads of opportunities and only some unbelievable last ditch tackling stopped that being a comfortable night.

I just had a look at the past two seasons league tables, Wigan have outscored Saints by over 100 points in both seasons and our points difference has also been better than theirs over the same period.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:56 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I just had a look at the past two seasons league tables, Wigan have outscored Saints by over 100 points in both seasons and our points difference has also been better than theirs over the same period.

But the Saints' fans would rather "trust their own eyes" and clearly that means Saints are still the best team and not a declining force at all. Don't forget they'd have butchered both teams on Saturday*!




*With apologies to the less deluded Saints fans.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:56 am  

When was the last time a team didn't score a try in a GF? I thought it might have been us Vs Bradford (one of my worst days as a Wigan fan), but when then we got a try.

Looking on Wiki, it doesn't seem like that's happened before. Quite a few 4 & 6 point scores.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:01 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

When was the last time a team didn't score a try in a GF? I thought it might have been us Vs Bradford (one of my worst days as a Wigan fan), but when then we got a try.

Looking on Wiki, it doesn't seem like that's happened before. Quite a few 4 & 6 point scores.

1st team to keep an opponent Tryless in a GF (we were 30 seconds or whatever away from doing it in 2020)

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:02 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

1st team to keep an opponent Tryless in a GF (we were 30 seconds or whatever away from doing it in 2020)

Thanks

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:06 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

Exactly. I've been laughing all weekend at certain Saints fans intimating they woulda/coulda won that game, completely missing the point that, unlike them, Wigan can play it in many different ways. Saints are more toothless than Catalans whereas, even in what is seen as an attritional final, we scored one, had one disallowed for a forward pass, another for crossing, one held up on the line and bombed another couple of clear cut chances. On another day that would have been 30+

Imagine if we'd played it free flowing...

It would have been a blow out score if we’d played saints. They were on their last legs against Catalan.

A brilliant side but one whose prime cycle has come to an end.

Our started on Saturday.

Re: Catalans (GF) : Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:07 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I just had a look at the past two seasons league tables, Wigan have outscored Saints by over 100 points in both seasons and our points difference has also been better than theirs over the same period.

Yeah, there is just no way a Saints fan could claim they’d butcher either side on Saturday. Maybe they’d have scraped past either side, who knows but that attack was dealt with pretty comfortably by Catalans the week before and we broke them up a good few times.