Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:47 pm  

Looks like he collides with his own man first

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:51 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Redvee have tweeted it. https://x.com/redveedotnet/status/16911 ... 89TNsgn-QQ That has to be a ban, good job his leg wasn't planted or you'd be fearing the worst

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Redvee have tweeted it. https://x.com/redveedotnet/status/16911 ... 89TNsgn-QQ That has to be a ban, good job his leg wasn't planted or you'd be fearing the worst

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:12 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

That has to be a ban, good job his leg wasn't planted or you'd be fearing the worst

Without a doubt that should have been a ban. I’d wager if injury was caused it would have been.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:31 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Redvee have tweeted it. https://x.com/redveedotnet/status/16911 ... 89TNsgn-QQ How is that not a ban?!?! No attempt to wrap his arms, side impact and attacking the standing leg whilst being held in the tackle. Isn't that the text book definition of a cannonball?

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Redvee have tweeted it. https://x.com/redveedotnet/status/16911 ... 89TNsgn-QQ How is that not a ban?!?! No attempt to wrap his arms, side impact and attacking the standing leg whilst being held in the tackle. Isn't that the text book definition of a cannonball?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:51 pm  

Zig wrote:

Mate, the Disciplinary Panel, has made a rod for its own back. On the other hand, half of the suspensions I have seen this season don’t make sense. Mind you, I would certainly like to see coaches banned for speaking derogatorily about referees in public, it has no part in the game. The appropriate channels should be used. Perhaps all these moaning coaches should be made to referee a few matches so that we can see how it should be done.

The problem I have with Watson was that he named a player (all be it the wrong one) he should have just said he wasn"t happy with the tackle

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:39 am  

thesaint71 wrote:

The problem I have with Watson was that he named a player (all be it the wrong one) he should have just said he wasn"t happy with the tackle

They shouldn’t be saying anything in public.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 am  

Zig wrote:

They shouldn’t be saying anything in public.

Exactly. I know some are throwing it back at Wellens over Asiata but he made those comments after the MRP had met. Watson was putting pressure on the panel before it even met. He also got the wrong player as he blamed Delaney. That for me is not right and I feel he is trying to deflect attention from yet another loss, the same way that Rowley did after the Salford game.

For all those fans sarcastically saying its a conspiracy and saying that Saints are always the victims may find that this will galvanise Saints.

After the SF loss and all the fall out from it Wellens said the players couldn't wait to play the next game. Admittedly we only just beat Leeds but we were down to the bare bones and that was a game we could easily have lost. This is creating a "them and us" mentality which we will thrive off.

Incidentally someone with way more time on their hands than me has looked into the number of charges that have led to bans and Saints are out on their own as the leaders so the stats back up that we have been punished more severely whether people feel thats warranted or not.

I do feel that we have cleaned up our discipline of late as there were times when we were getting it badly wrong.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:51 am  

Zig wrote:

They shouldn’t be saying anything in public.

Why?

You mean we should keep it all secret squirrel and not let anyone in on it? Surely transparency is the best way forward?

Or is it because it's another of those "we've always done it this way" so that's why we continue to do it. Regardless of its obviously broken and being abused to the benefit of those making these terrible decisions.

Drag the see you next Tuesday's in front of the camera after a match and ask them why they find it acceptable to have such contempt for paying fans. Bring them down several hundred pegs and then we'll start to talk about respect for them.

Refs are the single biggest thing wrong with RL, if not sport as a whole.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:35 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Why?

You mean we should keep it all secret squirrel and not let anyone in on it? Surely transparency is the best way forward?

Or is it because it's another of those "we've always done it this way" so that's why we continue to do it. Regardless of its obviously broken and being abused to the benefit of those making these terrible decisions.

Drag the see you next Tuesday's in front of the camera after a match and ask them why they find it acceptable to have such contempt for paying fans. Bring them down several hundred pegs and then we'll start to talk about respect for them.

Refs are the single biggest thing wrong with RL, if not sport as a whole.

Why? Because it brings the game into disrepute. There are hundreds of referees who will be subject to unfair criticism, insults and threats as a consequence of SL coaches going public. Whilst I don’t disagree that the level of officiating is generally sub standard, this is not the best way to deal with it. We need to encourage more ex-professionals into refereeing and the rules need to be simplified. And, the touch judges need to do more than just running up the touch line waving a flag now and then. The game is asking too much from the guy’s with the whistle.

I have said before that I would like the referee to put incidents such as Lees/Greenwood on report rather than making hasty decisions however, we are then relying on the inconsistent disciplinary panel to get it right!

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:55 am  

Zig wrote:

Why? Because it brings the game into disrepute. There are hundreds of referees who will be subject to unfair criticism, insults and threats as a consequence of SL coaches going public. Whilst I don’t disagree that the level of officiating is generally sub standard, this is not the best way to deal with it. We need to encourage more ex-professionals into refereeing and the rules need to be simplified. And, the touch judges need to do more than just running up the touch line waving a flag now and then. The game is asking too much from the guy’s with the whistle.

I have said before that I would like the referee to put incidents such as Lees/Greenwood on report rather than making hasty decisions however, we are then relying on the inconsistent disciplinary panel to get it right!

The game is already in disrepute with the weekly poor decisions being made by the refs + the failures of the disciplinary panel.

The games a mess and the people responsible for causing it also happen to be the ones getting the most protection too. It's a dictatorship, they look after their own and come down hard on dissenters.

Meanwhile fans get taken for mugs and worse still, some bend over and actively take it by sticking up for them. The main reason we weren't at Wembley this weekend was because some to$$er with a whistle dropped a massive f up.