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I think what we've established from all of this is that Matty Lees was rightly banned for contact to the head and Saints have tried everything to get him off with it
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Egg Chasing wrote:
I think what we've established from all of this is that Matty Lees was rightly banned for contact to the head and Saints have tried everything to get him off with it


Couldnt have said it better myself,there you go,end of.
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Stu M wrote:
Well that's interesting because having just spoken to my mate at Wigan (you know exactly who he is because I've told you previously) then he has confirmed that you can challenge the original grading still. Given he used to go with the Wigan players as their representative then its fair to say he knows more than you or I.

So yes whilst you may be correct in that on THIS occasion (capital letters used for emphasis) Saints appealed on a technicality then the fact that you have spent all afternoon categorically telling me that a second appeal can only be on a technicality is clearly incorrect.

To put it in the bluntest terms possible to avoid any further fudging of the facts:

You are wrong.

This would be your mate who's accompanied our players to many unsuccessful appeals, would it?

I've done a double check and you can't challenge the grading per se. Only the severity of the punishment if deemed excessive as already said elsewhere in this thread. It actually specifically states in the rules that the first appeal allows for grading to be challenged but doesn't in the second. You also have no recourse to challenge guilt in the second as you also claimed.

Even if we agree I was right, albeit for the wrong reason. That'll do.

You, on the other hand were just wrong.
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Phuzzy wrote:
This would be your mate who's accompanied our players to many unsuccessful appeals, would it?

I've done a double check and you can't challenge the grading per se. Only the severity of the punishment if deemed excessive as already said elsewhere in this thread. It actually specifically states in the rules that the first appeal allows for grading to be challenged but doesn't in the second. You also have no recourse to challenge guilt in the second as you also claimed.

Even if we agree I was right, albeit for the wrong reason. That'll do.

You, on the other hand were just wrong.


Show me exactly where in the policy and the definitive Operational Rules Policy where it says this. Just wondering where you are doing your checking that you refer to.

As an aside I’ve no desire to argue all day with you on here and I’m pretty sure everyone else is sick of reading the back and forth so please take to PM if you want to continue this.

If it’s in the policy and I’ve missed it as you infer then I’ll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. This is my last post on this thread about it so will carry on in private if you so wish.

My apologies to everyone else caught up in this.
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Stu M wrote:
Show me exactly where in the policy and the definitive Operational Rules Policy where it says this. Just wondering where you are doing your checking that you refer to.

As an aside I’ve no desire to argue all day with you on here and I’m pretty sure everyone else is sick of reading the back and forth so please take to PM if you want to continue this.

If it’s in the policy and I’ve missed it as you infer then I’ll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. This is my last post on this thread about it so will carry on in private if you so wish.

My apologies to everyone else caught up in this.


Dont apologise for defending your team,even if you are wrong :wink:
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Potentially opening up an old debate here but I see Micky Mac has been cleared to play on Saturday, after a successful appeal. It’s only fair to mention that, given we discuss Saints bans/appeals. I think it adds weight to people saying we need to stop rolling over and letting our belly be tickled. That MM challenge wasn’t much to write home about but it was comfortably worse than the Kaide Ellis one against HKR and we didn’t appeal that. I’ve said before, Saints would help themselves by stop making so many iffy challenges but we definitely look to be a bit soft and don’t want to rock the boat when it comes to appeals.
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Saints look like they are in the zone.
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Zig wrote:
Saints look like they are in the zone.


Peaked 6 weeks early :D
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Saints look like they are in the zone.


After tonight so do we.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

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