Re: Come on Cas! : Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:45 pm  

nickmanator wrote:

no its true cock dont try to twist it ,you have bummed up this riddell and bagged higham nothin to do with gay so quit that poop mate ,the tread is riddell if you look and my post is he is a total waste of time and selling higham is a disgrace ,you lot have disagread so i want to point out at this stage you all do not no anything about rugby with your wrong coments

You're judging a guy after 2 games, we're basing our opinion on Higham on 3 seasons. The platform for your argument is extremely weak, ours is considerably stronger.

Go troll elsewhere.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:50 pm  

Nobby was stood watching cas/quins with the London fans today. Your next 2 opponents.

I'm not sure he would have walked away worrying to much.

Re: Come on Cas! : Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:01 pm  

nickmanator wrote:

no its true cock dont try to twist it ,you have bummed up this riddell and bagged higham nothin to do with gay so quit that poop mate ,the tread is riddell if you look and my post is he is a total waste of time and selling higham is a disgrace ,you lot have disagread so i want to point out at this stage you all do not no anything about rugby with your wrong coments

The only thing i think you would like to twist is a finger till it is knuckle deep in a certain hookers behind, he has a family and is not that kind of lad.

Higham has nothing to do with this thread, or many others you simply push his name in.

Higham was average at best at Wigan, on paper the Wigan team and Riddell himself are far superior to Higham, that is still clear.

Run along nick try to form a valid opinion rather than having it clouded by dreams of Mick, that simply will not happen.

P.S. i never knew you were Irish

Re: Come on Cas! : Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:26 pm  

jonh wrote:

Shock horror, unable to answer the question.

Who better to appoint than someone with a bigger ego than the lot of them? A dominant figure stamps out ego issues. They come in and take control.

You raised issues that need to be delt with by the coach, and then try to deflect away from your own points that you raised.

I await an answer to who you think should deal with the ego's in the dressing room, who picks the team and who plays a major part in the recruitment of the club? All issues you raise.


I think it is good you are going to bed so you cannot talk yourself into another corner. If you have the nouce to be able to answer the questions raised i look forward to continuing the discussion, i do not think you will though as you cannot.

Night night. The membership badge is in the post by the way.

i would expect noble would pick the team??, c'mon for a man of knowlege i thought that even you would have got that one??, but he picks from what he has, the damage at wiagn was doen many years before noble got the job, i read further on in your post that we were meant to have targeted buderas but ended up with piggy, so are we meant to be happy with second fiddle choices??, as i said the damage in tearms of the salary cap was done long before noble arrived. As for dealing with ego's in the dressing room, the coach would be the one to sort that out but, if there are enough players with ego's which there are at wigan it would be an almost impossible task, as i have said before the players run the rule over the coach...lokk at ian millward as your example of that one...we signed noble who as you claim before, could have been anyone to step in to replace millward as the team wanted to impress, so why have they stopped impressing???, and if we have a team good enough as you say who love the game of rugby league, why the hell would you wanna bum around and look dis-interested when on the fireld of play infront of 14,000 fans, because they dont want him there anymore and wnat to push the squeeze on gettin him out???.the recruitment of the club, well there again id like to think noble, but this is wigan and we know from experience that the coach's we've seen and gone have been the fall guy's in the past of some bad recruitment rumoured to be by an ex- chairman. in short these are problems we've had for years so to throw the buck at nobles feet is really lame imo.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:53 pm  

What is wrong with being gay? I am a gay rugby player, Ian Roberts was a gay rugby player.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:54 am  

alex biscuit shoulders wrote:

What is wrong with being gay? I am a gay rugby player, Ian Roberts was a gay rugby player.

nothing.

Re: Come on Cas! : Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:11 am  

W18ANR wrote:

i would expect noble would pick the team??, c'mon for a man of knowlege i thought that even you would have got that one??, but he picks from what he has, the damage at wiagn was doen many years before noble got the job, i read further on in your post that we were meant to have targeted buderas but ended up with piggy, so are we meant to be happy with second fiddle choices??, as i said the damage in tearms of the salary cap was done long before noble arrived. As for dealing with ego's in the dressing room, the coach would be the one to sort that out but, if there are enough players with ego's which there are at wigan it would be an almost impossible task, as i have said before the players run the rule over the coach...lokk at ian millward as your example of that one...we signed noble who as you claim before, could have been anyone to step in to replace millward as the team wanted to impress, so why have they stopped impressing???, and if we have a team good enough as you say who love the game of rugby league, why the hell would you wanna bum around and look dis-interested when on the fireld of play infront of 14,000 fans, because they dont want him there anymore and wnat to push the squeeze on gettin him out???.the recruitment of the club, well there again id like to think noble, but this is wigan and we know from experience that the coach's we've seen and gone have been the fall guy's in the past of some bad recruitment rumoured to be by an ex- chairman. in short these are problems we've had for years so to throw the buck at nobles feet is really lame imo.

So why is Noble picking the players he is ie all these overseas players you highlighted when he has other options?


If you think there are bigger ego's than in the glory days you must be off your head. The fact is if the ego got in tjhe way of the team the coach got rid, see Bobby Goulding as the perfrect example of this.

In my opinion the team has zero confidence in the coach, they are playing to a game plan they do not like and indeed many of them can see is wrong but have to abide by the coach. Millward lost the dressing room, if people are consistent then they would use the same line with Millward as they would with Noble. I personally think Millward has more talent technically than Noble ever has, the difference between the 2 is man management and history, in the end though i feel they both lost the dressing room and it reflects in the performances.

We have had Noble in charge for 3 years he has more or less had enough time to get his team together apart from perhaps Bailey, who he continues to select even though he has younger Wigan options (one of your issues with the club)

Exactly how long do we have to wait for Noble to show his ability?

We have lost to the team that finished 11th last year and who had 2 key players out and there marquee player not arrived due to visa issues.

We have lost to a team that struggled last year who had 17 fit fulltime players many of whomewould not get a run in the first team were it not for injury.

We play a standard of rugby that does not suit our team and is easy for our opppnents to read, the same players make the same errors, who is to blame?

I feel Noble uses tactics that do not compliment out players. I notice you mention Piggy. His performances are generally charaterised by creativity at the ruck and picking up runners, as well as making solid scoots. How can a player create if they have no options, no dummy runners and why does he look to be dragging his booty around the field, look lethargic and not up to the standard he has last year and the rest of his career prior to that?

Re: Come on Cas! : Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:13 pm  

jonh wrote:

The only thing i think you would like to twist is a finger till it is knuckle deep in a certain hookers behind, he has a family and is not that kind of lad.

Higham has nothing to do with this thread, or many others you simply push his name in.

Higham was average at best at Wigan, on paper the Wigan team and Riddell himself are far superior to Higham, that is still clear.

Run along nick try to form a valid opinion rather than having it clouded by dreams of Mick, that simply will not happen.

P.S. i never knew you were Irish

higham is crap with a wonky eye and receding hairline.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:54 pm  

Not attempting to troll at all here, I do understand the reasoning for some of the opinions in the thread not that i would share them as a result of these two matches.

I think Noble has earned himself this season by his achievement last season of getting to the elimination game for a second year running - considering many Wigan fans thoughts that the squad was average at best its not a bad position to get to.

What I'm not so sure about is can he take Wigan the next step?? This years team should be classed as a Noble team - of your main squad of 23 for this season (not counting 6 club juniors):

- 9 were handpicked by Noble or the hierarchy to which am sure Noble would have consented to.
- 10 have progressed through the club over the last 5 years or so, only Goulding & O'Loughlin seem to gain any disapproval but not by the majority or you.
- The remaining 4 are Richards, Leuluai, Paleaaesina and Bailey – to which only Bailey doesn’t seem to come up to some of your standards.

If your season isn’t successful I’d certainly want the owners to look for alternative options, but what is a successful season in the current situation? Would you be happy with a GF/Challenge Cup Final place or does it have to result in a trophy THIS season?

Re: Come on Cas! : Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:56 pm  

jonh wrote:

I personally hope Cas stuff us, so that we can see an and to the reign of Brian Noble, and have some hope for this season and beyond.

Bring back the Pearl.

Someones had a beer.....