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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:02 pm  
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IMO your talking out your backside, Owen Farrell would be a class act in RL as well as RU. He'd get in the Wigan side 100%
And which position would he walk into? He's a fly half all day long, never a centre. Owen Farrell's biggest problem for me is his physical speed. Mentally he's top notch and I sometimes have to remind myself he's still only 20 years old. Overall I don't think (kicking aside) he's international class just yet, but he's dragged England through the opening two games in the six nations this year.
Feel free to come on to the union thread and discuss this with myself and the other regulars.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:25 pm  
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Because thats what Sarries and England RU use him mainly for.

IMO your talking out your backside, Owen Farrell would be a class act in RL as well as RU. He'd get in the Wigan side 100%

Where would he play? He's not even close to the class of LuLu and Finch in the halves, he hasn't got the pace to play in the back line nor the bulk to be a forward. I've watched many games where he has simply kicked all game never once have I seen him make a break or beat a man, I'd rather have Liam Farrell than Owen every day of the week! And as for England RU there isn't a world class player in their starting 15 (excluding Manu) they have been dismal in the six nations so far relying on two charge downs to win games! hardly creative and attacking play on show by Farrell and his companions.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:18 pm  
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Where would he play? He's not even close to the class of LuLu and Finch in the halves, he hasn't got the pace to play in the back line nor the bulk to be a forward. I've watched many games where he has simply kicked all game never once have I seen him make a break or beat a man, I'd rather have Liam Farrell than Owen every day of the week! And as for England RU there isn't a world class player in their starting 15 (excluding Manu) they have been dismal in the six nations so far relying on two charge downs to win games! hardly creative and attacking play on show by Farrell and his companions.

I'd rather have him in the halves than Leuluai, who just isn't a HB at all for me, he's a hooker plain and simple. He's give us the kicking game that's missing from our current HB's, as well as directing us around with Finch. Good defence as well.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 pm  
I've not seen the lad play but he'd have to be some player to be able to walk back in to rugby league after not playing it at professional level and not at all since he was about 13-14 to walk in to a Wigan side with a couple of players like Finch and Leuluai in the halfs.

He's need a minimum of 12 months in our U20's to be anywhere near ready.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:44 am  
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...and Deacon did what exactly?


Although Deacon was a great kicker, he did a lot more than that.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:15 am  
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I've not seen the lad play but he'd have to be some player to be able to walk back in to rugby league after not playing it at professional level and not at all since he was about 13-14 to walk in to a Wigan side with a couple of players like Finch and Leuluai in the halfs.

He's need a minimum of 12 months in our U20's to be anywhere near ready.


The tragedy is that if he'd continued in League, he would probably have developed all the necessary skills and physical toughness. But as others have said, I now think it's a bit too late - particularly for the latter.

I can only comment on what I've seen of him on telly, but he now looks to me like just another of this endless procession of handsome plastikit halfbacks that England RU produce - similar to Rob Andrew, Johnny Wilkinson etc - all of whom were adequate at what they did, mainly kicking, finished every match without a hair out of place, would have struggled to get into a pro RL side, and yet still came to enjoy massive wealth and kudos. In which case, I don't suppose he'll think he's missed out on much.

But because of what he COULD have been, I still regard him as a loss to the game.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:09 pm  
Owen Farrell moved to fly half. As I said, never a centre.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:18 pm  
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I'd rather have him in the halves than Leuluai, who just isn't a HB at all for me, he's a hooker plain and simple. He's give us the kicking game that's missing from our current HB's, as well as directing us around with Finch. Good defence as well.

Simply unbelieveable......
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:41 pm  
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I'd rather have him in the halves than Leuluai, who just isn't a HB at all for me, he's a hooker plain and simple. He's give us the kicking game that's missing from our current HB's, as well as directing us around with Finch. Good defence as well.

Simply unbelieveable......
I lost all respect for his argument after that statement, do think you'd pick an unproven league player who has shown literally no attacking rugby in Union over a World Cup, 4 Nations, Challenge Cup, Super League, Exile's winning Rugby League player who is world class in his sport and position.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:30 pm  
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world class in his sport and position.

at hooker.
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