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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:05 pm  
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Centre, halfback and hooker are the three positions I see us needing to strengthen with Thomas Leuluai and George Carmont leaving at the end of the season. The NRL market is 'largely dead' (to quote Lenagan) and the quality available in Super League is not much better either with most of the best players being tied up to 3/4/5 year contracts.

A possible solution could be to continue to promote from within. Now I'm not in the mind frame of giving a player a shirt purely because he's from Wigan, but I look at Logan Tomkins, Liam Carberry, Joe Mellor, Sam Powell, Anthony Gelling & can't ignore the fact we have some very talented young lads here at the club who could fill those spots without the need for too much recruitment.

It's controversial. We'd have to sign up Brett Finch, Sean O'loughlin and perhaps Stuart Fielden (as long as he returns to full fitness/form) so that we have some experienced players around these lads. One of the halfbacks and Anthony Gelling would have to be given some considerable game time this season for it to work ala Lomax/Gaskell at Saints. You have to ask, with the pack that we have, the quality in Sam Tomkins, Brett Finch, Mike McIlorum and Sean O'loughlin we have in key positions and the systems/structures/coaching here at Wigan - could it work?

Next season if we ended up lining up like:

Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Gelling Richards
Finch Mellor
Mossop McIlorum Lima
Hansen Hock
Lockers
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Prescott
Fielden
Lauaki
Faz/Tomkins/Carberry

What would people think?

IF Wigan were to go down this route of using what we have here, then you could advocate the signing of Gareth Ellis because we'd have the salary cap space to do so (although how that affects Faz/Tuson/Burke/Hughes would still concern me).

The reason I say all this is because Shaun Wane has made some brave moves. He's backed the lads he has coached in the U20's and SO FAR they've proved worthy. Josh Charnley, Darrell Goulding and Mike McIlorum - all been given starting shirts and doing good for us. Lee Mossop has been given a starting shirt and has proven more than worthy. A player like Tom Spencer has been given a couple of games very early in his career and he hasn't let us down when he's played. Think about it, who honestly was confident that Goulding would make a good centre? Who was confident that Mike McIlorum could be an 80 minute hooker in a top team? A Darrell Goulding/Josh Charnley partnership had most people on here (myself included) worried in defence - they've been excellent!

Albeit it's only been a few games into the season and much sterner tests lie ahead, but as the season progresses on and we see how these lads continue to develop and how they play against the top sides it will be interesting to see how they fair. If they can stand up to the challenge, could the idea of continuing to promote from within and back players like Joe Mellor/Gelling/Tomkins/Carberry/Spencer/Hughes etc really pay off? Is there a need for much recruitment? Time will tell.



Yes without a doubt. IMO.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:09 pm  
Everyone wants to see promotion from within but every fan should also always want to see the best players at Wigan. Let's hope we can find a way to combine the two as I'll always want to see guys at the level of Richards, Lam, Furner, Renouf, Barrett, Dallas etc in cherry and white.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:47 pm  
if it was a genuine 3 overseas players only per team then that would be 42 overseas players....there are not that many current world beaters over here now....just stop the journeymen... make it so they had to have played rep footy either for country or state of origin within the last 2 years and then you would only get the cream if there was enough money in our game to attract them.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:41 pm  
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if it was a genuine 3 overseas players only per team then that would be 42 overseas players....there are not that many current world beaters over here now....just stop the journeymen... make it so they had to have played rep footy either for country or state of origin within the last 2 years and then you would only get the cream if there was enough money in our game to attract them.


But their isnt the money to attract that calibre of player! And it will only be even worse from next year when the NRLs salary cap will be between 2 and 3 times ours, plus the unfavourable exchange rate compared to a few years ago. We are going to have to either look at untried 18-22 year olds from the Toyota Cup or players at the back end of their career I'm afraid.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:38 pm  
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if it was a genuine 3 overseas players only per team then that would be 42 overseas players....there are not that many current world beaters over here now....just stop the journeymen... make it so they had to have played rep footy either for country or state of origin within the last 2 years and then you would only get the cream if there was enough money in our game to attract them.


Correct me if I'm wrong but that would rule out many players who do bring worth to SL. Also players like Carmont would get in because they had played for Samoa where a guy like Pat had no rep honours when he signed for Wigan.

We need to cap the amount but, imo, the clubs should be able to pick the players free from extra constraints.

We want players like Dobson, Deruex, Finch, Pat, Hodgson and past guys like the Paul brothers, Withers, Talau, Piggy to be given a shot or opportunity in SL as they add worth.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 am  
Wheeler's signed on at Saints til end of 2014 so puts an end to that one.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:31 am  
When is Jack Reed's contract up?

Wouldn't mind seeing him in a Wigan shirt
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:02 am  
Don't know if it's already been mentioned but Matty Russell has gone to Leigh on dual-registration.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:55 am  
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Wheeler's signed on at Saints til end of 2014 so puts an end to that one.


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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:03 pm  
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Don't know if it's already been mentioned but Matty Russell has gone to Leigh on dual-registration.


A great move for the lad.
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