Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:48 pm  

For me Gelling was a diamond in the rough. moments of genius followed by complete brain farts. Same with Hock

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:58 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

For me Gelling was a diamond in the rough. moments of genius followed by complete brain farts. Same with Hock

Gelling’s main asset was his ability to consistently make big meters.

Looking at his stats during the World Cup he still possesses that ability despite being 32.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:10 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Does a team not need different types of people? The kind who'll keep moral up Vs the kind with mean competitive streak etc?

Whatever type of person Hastings is, it seems that Wests have decided their team doesn't need him. And whether Wigan felt they needed him or not, their team has done much better since he left.

From some of the stories I've heard, I think you're being generous to him. But hey, they're only stories. Lots of different people might be lying.

What I would add is that professional players need to get real. We've all had to work with people we didn't like or considered to be disruptive. It's just part of life, and you have to be grown up. But when you've got an apparent scenario like that at Wests - where Bateman, who seems to get on okay with others - won't sign unless Hastings has gone, turning down a massive contract in the process, that sounds to me like there's a real problem.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:09 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Objectively, what is it that Singleton brings to the table? His stats aren't that impressive. Plus, he's always a sound bet for a good penalty, or a few weeks in the stands too. Granted he's experienced &, I can't judge his impact off the field, but I'm not sure if that experience transfers to the 80mins of actual rugby.

I've always thought that Cooper is the player we hopped Singo would be for us. Experienced operator, as good on the field as off it. A guy that in situations like Magic weekend (where we struggled 1st 20 imo) is going to win collisions and get yards etc.

The usual posts about Singleton are that he "does all of the things that go unnoticed" - a metric that I still find hilarious and ironic. And for some reason it counterweights all of the stuff that does go noticed, i.e. all of the above.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:26 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

The usual posts about Singleton are that he "does all of the things that go unnoticed" - a metric that I still find hilarious and ironic. And for some reason it counterweights all of the stuff that does go noticed, i.e. all of the above.

Stuff like that always makes me chuckle. People want stats, until the stats point to a different narrative than the one they want to push. Then it's all about his elbows and knees and how he's uncomfortable to tackle i.e something that can't be measured.

I'll stand by my comment that, out of our 6 or so front line props, Singleton is the bottom of the list.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:06 am  

Woo-hoo! https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/exclusiv ... hem-61886/ But before anyone gets excited, check out this sentence: 'We'd prefer him to be developed in Australia.' So, in other words, is anyone in SL dumb enough to make us the sort of offer we can then use as leverage to get the deal we want back home?

Woo-hoo! https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/exclusiv ... hem-61886/ But before anyone gets excited, check out this sentence: 'We'd prefer him to be developed in Australia.' So, in other words, is anyone in SL dumb enough to make us the sort of offer we can then use as leverage to get the deal we want back home?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:47 am  

Latest scoop from Dan the man, if Bateman goes we will be looking to replace him but maybe not with a like for like replacement.

In other news he has also revealed that the sun is hot and water is wet.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:51 am  

jonh wrote:

Latest scoop from Dan the man, if Bateman goes we will be looking to replace him but maybe not with a like for like replacement.

In other news he has also revealed that the sun is hot and water is wet.

I would still check just to be certain

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:14 am  

The thing with Bateman is the fact that his girlfriend is Australian. I've often wondered long-term what would happen as clearly she wants to go back to Australia to live. I note that she is there now commenting on how nice it is to see some sun (I presume she knows that we are in Autumn coming up to Winter and that Australia has had record rainfalls in their Autumn/Winter)

The fact that they have a child further compounds the problems. Could Bateman do a James Graham and move over there permanently, but then there is the issue of his daughter. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens long-term

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:24 am  

Stu M wrote:

The thing with Bateman is the fact that his girlfriend is Australian. I've often wondered long-term what would happen as clearly she wants to go back to Australia to live. I note that she is there now commenting on how nice it is to see some sun (I presume she knows that we are in Autumn coming up to Winter and that Australia has had record rainfalls in their Autumn/Winter)

The fact that they have a child further compounds the problems. Could Bateman do a James Graham and move over there permanently, but then there is the issue of his daughter. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens long-term

To be honest, I just don't know if we need that hassle.

You can maybe tolerate a player whose head is on the other side of the world if he's the best in the business, but a distracted John Bateman is clearly not the John Bateman of two years ago. With luck, we'll get someone in who's solidly focussed on wanting to play for Wigan.