: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:27 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

Just to add why do supporters think Noble and Lennagan would not appear comfortable in public?

Both have egos that they like to be stroked. They surround themselves with 'nice friendly people' who will stroke their egos. They both have a very public persona and a private one.

For the reasons already stated (i.e. they haven't always done in the past). No others.

Re: rl : Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:36 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Whether Noble stays or goes when his contract expires Jones could not come in as first team coach. He's no experience in League and would be laughed out of the dressing room.
If he is to be Wigan bound then the "player performance director" succeeding Joe Lydon seems the most obvious job.
Also the PPD title would seem to be a euphemism for "Union Scout".
Really got my doubts about this one but if it takes place then the club will be broadening its scouting beyond Rugby League territory.

If for no other reason than he's not qualified as a RL coach.

Re: rl : Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:38 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Whether Noble stays or goes when his contract expires Jones could not come in as first team coach. He's no experience in League and would be laughed out of the dressing room.
If he is to be Wigan bound then the "player performance director" succeeding Joe Lydon seems the most obvious job.
Also the PPD title would seem to be a euphemism for "Union Scout".
Really got my doubts about this one but if it takes place then the club will be broadening its scouting beyond Rugby League territory.

That is what excites me about the prospect we will increase our potential scouting player pool two or three fold.

I would also add Jones is often seen as a bit of a maveric when it comes to his coaching ideas, which may not enhance the first team, could certainly give another view on our methods and i would think also add to the development of our younger players.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:51 pm  

But why would any decent talent possibly wish to defect from union, irrespective of the poacher's credentials? The flow is all the other way at the moment and will continue for the forseeable future. IMO the only recruits from union will be returning "failures" like Pryce, Walker, etc.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:54 pm  

The only way I can see Union players becoming realistic for League is if their salaries became exempt from the cap but I daresay and rightly so the league players would be up in arms.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:11 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

But why would any decent talent possibly wish to defect from union, irrespective of the poacher's credentials? The flow is all the other way at the moment and will continue for the forseeable future. IMO the only recruits from union will be returning "failures" like Pryce, Walker, etc.

I do not think we have to aim at the top International players who are earning thousands of pounds a week. In my opinion there are many union players some who are not even playing in the Guiness Premiership who would be much more suited to rugby league than they are in rugby union, i would suggest this would be the same world wide.

The man will have a network of contacts throughout the world, clearly young talent are still attracted to the game in New Zealand for example despite union being the national sport and a much bigger sport.

Given the federation trained rule and the loop hole of 3 full seasons prior to the age of 21 Jones may well be able to identify realistic targets who could be brought to the club at a young age and included on the federation trained list.

Its all speculation, clearly but you do not always have to look at the big earners in Union to unearth the talent suited towards our code of rugby, i think much of it has to do with ignorance of union, which having someone like Jones on board would put that issue to bed.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:15 pm  

jonh wrote:

I do not think we have to aim at the top International players who are earning thousands of pounds a week. In my opinion there are many union players some who are not even playing in the Guiness Premiership who would be much more suited to rugby league than they are in rugby union, i would suggest this would be the same world wide.

The man will have a network of contacts throughout the world, clearly young talent are still attracted to the game in New Zealand for example despite union being the national sport and a much bigger sport.

Given the federation trained rule and the loop hole of 3 full seasons prior to the age of 21 Jones may well be able to identify realistic targets who could be brought to the club at a young age and included on the federation trained list.

Its all speculation, clearly but you do not always have to look at the big earners in Union to unearth the talent suited towards our code of rugby, i think much of it has to do with ignorance of union, which having someone like Jones on board would put that issue to bed.

I take your point but the last thing English RL needs is an influx of teenage Kiwis - not that any of this is likely to happen.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:39 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

I take your point but the last thing English RL needs is an influx of teenage Kiwis - not that any of this is likely to happen.

I do not disagree, but i am sure we would not mind the odd one here and there if they were potentially top class league players, the kiwi's especially in union tend to turn out year in year out these massive pacey wing men who would be perfectly suited to our code, would not mind bagging one, a Lomu as a 16 year old for example.


While i agree it maybe unlikely the potential for him to do this is there and IF he were to come i think the clubs horizons would be significantly broadened.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:44 pm  

Lenegan eyes one more recruit http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lenagan-eyes-one-more-recruit.4940146.jp Lenagan said: "We might get one more in – we are talking to a couple of players. "Whether they will become available in the next few days or weeks or not at all is something I can't predict, but we've got to be ready. Wonder who they are? Richard Moore? David Solomona?

Lenegan eyes one more recruit http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lenagan-eyes-one-more-recruit.4940146.jp Lenagan said: "We might get one more in – we are talking to a couple of players. "Whether they will become available in the next few days or weeks or not at all is something I can't predict, but we've got to be ready. Wonder who they are? Richard Moore? David Solomona?

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:06 pm  

Cadoo! wrote:

Wonder who they are?

Richard Moore?
David Solomona?

Hopefully neither. We are better off as we are than adding either of them.