: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:16 am  

wire forever wrote:

You'll do ok with Nobby, who else could do better

Nobody could do better at getting owned by Saints for years.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:17 am  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

Numerous Australian Coaches,

Shaun Edwards

Ellery Hanley

As much as it pains me i have to agree.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:21 am  

Jon you are rational

Now convincing Brett Kenny of anything is a monumental task

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:31 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Nobody could do better at getting owned by Saints for years.

What a stupid statement

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:41 am  

Orrell Lad wrote:

What a stupid statement

Sorry, he's excelled against Saints.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:17 am  

Arguing about the pro's and con's of playing style is a seperate issue. It's a personal, subjective opinion. As I have said I sometimes disagree with his decisions - e.g. if he plays Lockers at 6.

What you cannot argue with is Nobby's record in SL both at Wigan and Bradford.

If you honestly think that any coach could have turned us around like he did then I think you need to open your eyes. Teams just don't gain form/systems overnight.

Also given our squad imo 3rd was about the best we could have hoped for in the last 2 years.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:26 am  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Arguing about the pro's and con's of playing style is a seperate issue. It's a personal, subjective opinion. As I have said I sometimes disagree with his decisions - e.g. if he plays Lockers at 6.

What you cannot argue with is Nobby's record in SL both at Wigan and Bradford.

If you honestly think that any coach could have turned us around like he did then I think you need to open your eyes. Teams just don't gain form/systems overnight.

Also given our squad imo 3rd was about the best we could have hoped for in the last 2 years.

Were you happy with the performances, did you think that we closed the gap on the top 2 at all?

For me we did not.

You keep alluding to his record but again do you think when he left Bradford he left them in as strong a position as when he took over? Same question regards GB.

I have stated i am not his biggest fan but i do think he has earned a shot at proving his doubters wrong regards his limitations this year.

I agree he has met his remit with Wigan, he has done what he was brought in to do, now for me as i said earlier he is taking a huge career risk into 2009, there can be no more excuses.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:04 am  

His record with Wigan is not too bad, as said he saved us from relegation, and got us into 2 semi's in the playoffs.

However, the standard of rugby we have played has gone down hill dramatically. To say we play negative rugby is the biggest understatement out there.

We definitly go out not to lose, rather than going out to win.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:10 am  

I like Nobby and have backed him 100% since he's been here. He has turned the club around and turned us into a very competative side again. The rugby is not the most entertaining but nobody would complain if it led us to a trophy. If he had the right quality of player around him i think he'd get us back amoungst the silverware but the salary cap restraints have held him back from building the squad he wants.

On the downside though he seems unwilling to give the youngsters a 'real' shot unless his hand is forced. I really hope he'll use a couple of them this year or we risk losing them.

It's a big year for him.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:11 am  

I am not anti Noble in any way, however all this talk about he saved us from relegation irritates me a little bit.

What helped us was naming a fully fit side for the last ten or twelve games of the season, the fact that nearly all these games were at home and also breaking the cap when signing Fielden.

I believe that if Wigan hit a similar injury crisis this year to the one in 2006 then we will be bottom 3 regardless of who is coach.