: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:35 pm  

- Neil - wrote:

The biggest probelm we have is that Smith is out of position at 6. The lads a scrum half not a stand off.

Yes in some cases it would not matter as you get players who can play both. Tim Smith however is not one of these players he is a classic 7.

Tommy is the more versatile of the two and should play at stand off even though his best position is definatly 9.

there isnt much difference at wigan if you play scrum half or stand off, they just split the field smith operates the right and lulu the left its only on 4th that they link up

tommy should move up to 9 and bring sam on but then i think where very lightweight in defence

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:37 pm  

In terms of defence what I cannot fathom is why Noble does not adjust his defence to fit the team. We have a big set of forwards and reasonably fast backs. Surely, an umbrella defence with the backs moving up quickly to force the opposition back into our forwards is a better bet than our sliding defence.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:37 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

bet you thought he was useless when he won the 3 grand finals he has to his name, guess you think he was useless when we got to the semi final on 2 occasions under him, we all know that noble always has 3 or 4 forwards on the bench thats the game he plays, he wants forwards, you need forwards to get up the field to let your backs play of the back of that

I'm not turning this into another anti Noble thread. If you want to look at how me and others rate Noble and the problems i have with his management then look on the anti Noble thread.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:38 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

there isnt much difference at wigan if you play scrum half or stand off, they just split the field smith operates the right and lulu the left its only on 4th that they link up

tommy should move up to 9 and bring sam on but then i think where very lightweight in defence

Karl Pryce to 7

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:40 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

I think it will.

Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.

I think he should start off with Tommy, put riddell on the bench, then have smith at SH, Lockers at SO and have J Tomkins starting at loose... That way it'll give Riddell time to read the game from the bench, he can come on, see where the weak areas are in Hull's defence and exploit em.

[DaveO]

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:43 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

I think it will.

Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.

Not again and so I take it you expect McIllorum to miss out of the 17?

If so and if Coley plays that will mean the only change will have been the forced change of Mathers.

Unless if course he puts Prescott in instead of O'Caroll

Dave

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:52 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Not again and so I take it you expect McIllorum to miss out of the 17?

Unfortunately, yeah.

Tommy playing at hooker is too good of an attacking oppotunity to miss out on.

On the other hand, we do need stability at 6 and 7.

It's a big headache for Noble.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:06 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

In terms of defence what I cannot fathom is why Noble does not adjust his defence to fit the team. We have a big set of forwards and reasonably fast backs. Surely, an umbrella defence with the backs moving up quickly to force the opposition back into our forwards is a better bet than our sliding defence.

Worrying though if a side is defensively weak on the outside?

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:09 pm  

When Noble voiced comments about certain players having thier own agenda on the radio...he then stated he would have to make sure he picked the " right team " to play hull ....seems much the same to me.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:18 pm  

AJ wrote:

Agreed, in a week of such discontent (albeit after 1 round) and players clearly not performing, Noble is giving them all a chance to make amends and repay his faith. I hope he knows what he is doing.

Sorry mate but that was round 17 and if you're not up to it now then you haven't got much time left to put things right lol