: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:06 pm  

Ashton Warrior wrote:

Good offload for Baileys try.

It was and he did very well for that try. I think people just expect abit too much too soon at times. He's a young lad making his way in the game and theres bound to be some flaws with him.

His record in terms of try scoring for a young centre is very good.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:24 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Two opportunities that should have won us the game.

He has lost wight but his pace doesn't seem to have increased in proportion.

And his tackling effort for Hulls last try was Mathersesque.

I'd say that was a one off, having watched him carefully pre-season and in our first two games, he's certainly not lost any strenghth.

It's an RLFans-built myth that his defence is that bad, he has a problem chagin out the line.

Compare him to Phelps at centre, that lad lacks any sort of defensive structure watsoever, and his tackling technique will one day end his career ealry.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:30 pm  

Steinlager wrote:

I'd say that was a one off, having watched him carefully pre-season and in our first two games, he's certainly not lost any strenghth.

It's an RLFans-built myth that his defence is that bad, he has a problem chagin out the line.

Compare him to Phelps at centre, that lad lacks any sort of defensive structure watsoever, and his tackling technique will one day end his career ealry.

I agree they're both rubbish defensively. Hopefully my Bailey Ainscough combination idea will gather momentum (Only worry is Ainscough wouldn't get a pass )

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:40 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I feel that defence has always been Goulding's biggest weakness.

He is one youngster who can NOT claim that he 'never had a chance at Wigan'. He was given a first team shirt last year, but often his performances were less than adequate.

I still think he's got loads of potential, and I desperately hope - for his sake as well as ours - that he soon fulfills it. But deep down I'm starting to fear we may have another Aspinwall on our hands.

I always thought Aspinwalls defence was one of his strongest points.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:42 pm  

wiganrlforever wrote:

I always thought Aspinwalls defence was one of his strongest points.

Who can ever forget his tackle v London Broncos at Brentford.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:44 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Who can ever forget his tackle v London Broncos at Brentford.

Classic leg tackle that was.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:54 pm  

Some crazy views. His strength? His running lines as we saw when he hit the hole from an Amos pass when winger did not support him. We still scored in that set though with Goulding putting in a neat pass. The first shoulder charge by Byrne was a brilliant piece of defence. Byrne got his result but came off worse. The second break he should have scored but like all British youngsters he tried to stay upright and step back.

The comparison to Gidley is absurd and unfair but the secret of Gidley is that he does not even try to beat his opposing defender. He simply keeps a low body position and uses the try line as his friend, taking the tackle as he scores.

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:46 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Who can ever forget his tackle v London Broncos at Brentford.

or his tackle on Darren Albert v Saints at knowsley road . My favourite Aspinwall moment is when he's in Huddersfield colours though, which is available on a video hosting site.

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:17 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Two opportunities that should have won us the game.

He has lost wight but his pace doesn't seem to have increased in proportion.

And his tackling effort for Hulls last try was Mathersesque.

I'm sorry but there's no way that he could have got that first ball to Phelps because the ball from Richards was too hight - You can see Daz reach for it - If you look at the video of the game (think someones posted a link on here), he couldn't have got the pass away to Phelps in time.

As for the second one, well I don't know, I've not seen it - But some people are right with what they say on here, he's only 20... It's a big responsibility to be given the number 3 shirt at that age - especially with the amount of quality centre's in SL at the moment to go up against - I honestly don't think Noble would have given him the shirt if he was no good. Barrett himself spoke of how good he was.

With the weight issue, Noble beefed him up before giving him the no.3 shirt, and it obviously didn't work, he became too slow - Look at the amount of tries he scored off the bench before he beefed up? - That's why he needed to loose that much weight - But then again, I do think that if he doesn't play well this season then thats it for him, either he looses no.3 or, he's sold...

I think with Sam Tomkins people are expecting too much - Based on a) a game against whitehaven and b) 2-3 pre season games, one against kids ... There'll be a big disapointment if Noble put's him in too early I think... And he will get slated on here, it's inevitable.

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:19 am  

Goulding isn't good enough imo. If we want to start winning things its average players like him we need to get rid of.