: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:46 pm  

twosevenzero wrote:

Learning from the tactical master............Noble ???????????

Well he may have been there trying to take notes on what not to do i guess.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:34 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

I'm quite suprised really. I would have never have thought he had a tactical or coaching sense about him.

I agree !

Robinson had no tactical play whatsoever.

In fact, most of the time I don't think he even knew himself what he was going to do with the ball.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:17 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Ummmm how many more are there? Not sure today's crop of "Wigan RL Greats" is going to be in demand

Thus far the evidence would suggest more than Saints can produce.

I can't follow this up with a playful wink because I don't see the funny side of our next batch of youngsters now being targeted, while other clubs - those few who actually produce youngsters - seem to lead a charmed life.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:31 pm  

Good luck to him, he is a top guy.

He will be succesful and then come to us

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:09 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Thus far the evidence would suggest more than Saints can produce.

I can't follow this up with a playful wink because I don't see the funny side of our next batch of youngsters now being targeted, while other clubs - those few who actually produce youngsters - seem to lead a charmed life.

Without wanting to make an anti Wigan point, it seems that players like the fabled Sam (I personally have no idea how good he is, or isn't) are being stifled at the club, with few, or no opportunities. Were he at Saints or Leeds, he would likely get more opportunity? It is wise therefore, for union clubs to target the Wigan youngsters ahead of other clubs, because they are far more likely to be disenchanted in the first place, and are therefore easier pickings? Plus, the dressing room unhappiness that is talked about on here, being boo'd by your own speccies, and the lack of any real prospect of silverware must make talented kids think seriously about going to pastures new.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:32 pm  

Pemps and all, Jason has the 2007 England World Cup forwards coach looking after his pack, and he didn't do too badly.
He is a fiercely driven individual, as my mrs found out when she asked him a daft question once.
I wish him well, my only fear is that his own high standards may upset others, though it has to be said, Shaun Edwards has got over that issue!

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:05 pm  

Good luck to him. Hope he doesn't nick any of our youngsters.

[Pemps]

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:58 am  

Hoofer wrote:

Pemps and all, Jason has the 2007 England World Cup forwards coach looking after his pack, and he didn't do too badly.
He is a fiercely driven individual, as my mrs found out when she asked him a daft question once.
I wish him well, my only fear is that his own high standards may upset others, though it has to be said, Shaun Edwards has got over that issue!

What have I got to do with this debate?

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:03 am  

Pemps wrote:

What have I got to do with this debate?

Your the leader of the Wigan pack...

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:24 am  

SomersetSaint wrote:

Without wanting to make an anti Wigan point, it seems that players like the fabled Sam (I personally have no idea how good he is, or isn't) are being stifled at the club, with few, or no opportunities. Were he at Saints or Leeds, he would likely get more opportunity? It is wise therefore, for union clubs to target the Wigan youngsters ahead of other clubs, because they are far more likely to be disenchanted in the first place, and are therefore easier pickings? Plus, the dressing room unhappiness that is talked about on here, being boo'd by your own speccies, and the lack of any real prospect of silverware must make talented kids think seriously about going to pastures new.

There may be something in that, but you could hardly say that Chris Ashton didn't get first team action.

I suspect it's more to do with Wigan's reputation for producing quality youngsters, which goes back a long, long way. And with the average RU club's limited knowledge of RL in general.

Sale in particular rarely look beyond Wigan when trying to recruit from RL. Whether this is Jason Robinson's influence or not, I don't know. But those who are now concerned about Robinson's appointment as head coach at Sale have every reason to be. Robinson has been hanging around the Wigan camp for the last 8 or 9 months.

He's been right in our midst - so much so that folk were wondering if he was being lined up for a job at Wigan. More fool us. If there's one thing you can safely say about Jason Robinson, he knows where the grass is greener.