: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:51 am  

chip wrote:

He will go in at scrum half tommy going to hooker were he is at his most dangerous

If only that will be the case, let's hope it is

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:52 am  

Sams in the squad

rl : Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:58 am  

Tomkins should be left where he is for now.
Quins away is never easy and we don't want to give them extra targets to aim for than they've got already. No point either as we play Bradford next week and Leeds the following game and he isn't going to play in those.
Play him off the bench v Salford away the week after Leeds.
One or two may need a rest and that's when Tomkins should be introduced.
A good away game where we may well win and if we don't the boo boys don't travel so he won't have to put up with that on his debut.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:58 am  

as much as i want to see him play why have i got a bad feelin he will play locky at 6 in spells and tommy switching between 7 and 9

Re: rl : Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:31 am  

Father Ted wrote:

Tomkins should be left where he is for now.

Our team is missing a stand-off more than anything else at this moment. He will do the job nicely.

Father Ted wrote:

Quins away is never easy and we don't want to give them extra targets to aim for than they've got already.

We've already discussed this at some length on another thread. He can't play at Quins cos its tricky. You didn't think he should play against Cas cos they have a big pack (smaller than Salfords by the way), etc. Sam has been a target in every game he's played and he'll be a target in every game he plays for the remainder of his career, so should we not play him at all?

Father Ted wrote:

No point either as we play Bradford next week and Leeds the following game and he isn't going to play in those.

So if we look completely clueless in attack again this week, do we just hope for the best against Leeds and Bradford? This is the game to play him in because if he can come in and organise the attack and we look like we know what we're doing then he is a must for the Bradford and Leeds games.

Father Ted wrote:

Play him off the bench v Salford away the week after Leeds. One or two may need a rest and that's when Tomkins should be introduced.

Need a rest? FFS! Who would need a rest after 6 matches? They might be looking for new clubs or adjusting to a new coach but they sure as hell shouldn't need a rest. What we need is some organisation and inspiration.

Father Ted wrote:

A good away game where we may well win and if we don't the boo boys don't travel so he won't have to put up with that on his debut.

There will always be some idiots who boo at matches. I understand their frustration but if they think it will motivate a team that is playing badly then they're morons. Booing an under performing team is like pouring petrol on a fire to try and extinguish it.

A coach can't select his side on whether or not they can cope with being booed off.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:56 am  

chip wrote:

He will go in at scrum half tommy going to hooker were he is at his most dangerous

Starting the game?

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:57 am  

AJ wrote:

It is, Bailey in the centre is exactly what we need currently.

I would not go that far but he appears to be our best option sadly, although i would perhaps like to see J. Tomkins given a run there, he is never a centre in a million years but given our current situation i think he would shore up the defence and also offer much more going forward.

Just thinking out of the box a little.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:59 am  

jonh wrote:

I would not go that far but he appears to be our best option sadly, although i would perhaps like to see J. Tomkins given a run there, he is never a centre in a million years but given our current situation i think he would shore up the defence and also offer much more going forward.

Just thinking out of the box a little.

Or, play Bailey, a man who has played centre before, in the centre & leave Joel in the back row, where he is going well.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:04 pm  

AJ wrote:

Or, play Bailey, a man who has played centre before, in the centre & leave Joel in the back row, where he is going well.

Why not put Lockers in the centres Joel to LF at least Lockers is willing to off load Bailey wont then i would start Sam at 6 and Tommy at 7 then move tommy to 9 and bring Smith off the bench to 7. That might work

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:05 pm  

Andy Greg wrote:

Why not put Lockers in the centres Joel to LF at least Lockers is willing to off load Bailey wont then i would start Sam at 6 and Tommy at 7 then move tommy to 9 and bring Smith off the bench to 7. That might work

6 Sam
7 Smith

9 Riddell

Tommy off the bench with Hock, Feka & Pryce. What impact!