: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:43 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Please Listen to the other side of the argument

Nobody is saying there shouldn't be a salary Cap (Apart from maybe BK )

What people are saying is that it should be a % of the Turnover of a Particular club i.e

If a Club Turns over 10M Why can't they spend 5M
If a Club Turns over 4M They Spend 2M

Something similar to that would encourage clubs to concentrate on Building there Business/Club rather than Leeching off the other clubs with Better Youth Policies etc.

There are Numerous other suggestions Like Rogues who says a % of a Players Wages Shouldn't be counted if he was Club trained encouraging the use of more Home Grown Players.

I wouldn't say about the Turnover, as bigger clubs now are always going to have the advantage, with more fans and more retail revenue.

However, I would definitely say that Home grown players shouldn't count on the salary cap. I would also bring in a stipulation that states only a certain amount of money can be spent on the wages of foreign players.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:44 pm  

Trust Rogues to bring Saints into it once again. His fascination of everything Saints is becoming scary. It must be his age.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:46 pm  

leegregory wrote:

:roll:

Most clubs have and are improving, or are you solely basing your opinion on the playing squads, or your excrutiating painful memoires of "when Wigan were great".

Ha Ha HA Ha Ha!
I must visit Doctors as My sides are Splitting!

Take Lyon & Gidley out of the Saints team of the last 4 years & There would have been drastically different outcomes to many many games!

Bearing in mind the Overall improvement of our competition can surely only be tested by our National Sides performances would you like to tell me How we are improving??????

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:46 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Please Listen to the other side of the argument

Nobody is saying there shouldn't be a salary Cap (Apart from maybe BK )

What people are saying is that it should be a % of the Turnover of a Particular club i.e

If a Club Turns over 10M Why can't they spend 5M
If a Club Turns over 4M They Spend 2M

Something similar to that would encourage clubs to concentrate on Building there Business/Club rather than Leeching off the other clubs with Better Youth Policies etc.

There are Numerous other suggestions Like Rogues who says a % of a Players Wages Shouldn't be counted if he was Club trained encouraging the use of more Home Grown Players.

as it stands now, how many clubs have turnover of more than say £6m - i will give you a clue, the answer is Leeds. All other clubs would be spendingn a similar level to that they are on now, to varying degrees.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:47 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Bearing in mind the Overall improvement of our competition can surely only be tested by our National Sides performances would you like to tell me How we are improving??????

we didnt beat the Aussies back in the days of non-salary cap.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:51 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

we didnt beat the Aussies back in the days of non-salary cap.

We didn't get embarrassed 52-4 though.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:53 pm  

JLM23 wrote:

I wouldn't say about the Turnover, as bigger clubs now are always going to have the advantage, with more fans and more retail revenue.

However, I would definitely say that Home grown players shouldn't count on the salary cap. I would also bring in a stipulation that states only a certain amount of money can be spent on the wages of foreign players.

Don't totally disagree, my only point being that as it is we have had a Stagnant Competition in terms of Quality for the last 3 or 4 years and I feel "Something" needs to be done. I have a few thoughts and so do many others.

Hypothetical

Leeds Pick up 7 or 8 bad injuries, start losing many,many games, crowds drop off, they lose revenue even though they may have had the Business foresight to Make Millions over the past 3/4/5 years they can't use this to reinvest in playing standards to keep their success up on the field etc.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:55 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

we didnt beat the Aussies back in the days of non-salary cap.

Sorry as this pre 96 (And You may not obviously count this as Ever Happening!) but didn't we beat them 88/90/92/94 etc and didn't we consistantly challenge them closely??? Avoiding Mullerings almost Completely!

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:57 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

as it stands now, how many clubs have turnover of more than say £6m - i will give you a clue, the answer is Leeds. All other clubs would be spendingn a similar level to that they are on now, to varying degrees.

And what incentive have they got to improve on that ???

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:58 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Sorry as this pre 96 but didn't we beat them 88/90/92/94 etc and didn't we consistantly challenge them closely??? Avoiding Mullerings almost Completely!

it's a double edged sword for me. standards in top flight league have gone backwards over here whilst in the NRL theyve improved in all areas; fitness, technique, tactics, coaching.