Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:29 pm  

tank123 wrote:

SL this season will be closest for a very long time. 6 sides will challenge for top 4 and unless a side gets the timing that Leeds did last season by getting all players back from severe injuries by August then you have to finish in the top 4. You still do not get it do you we lost to the worst side in SL even worse than Crusaders or Wakey last season.

If players needs to be rested after 5 games then there is something mentally wrong with them. You rest them once you get a top 4 spot not when you are5 games into a season that will be tough to get into the top 4.

This defeat isn't going to prevent us from finishing in the top 4 though. Even if we miss out by 2 points this defeat won't be the issue. We know the full strength team is good enough to finish in the top 2 so if they fail to do that the issue will be one that manifests itself over the course of the season. We are good enough to beat the best sides and if we deserve to get to the Grand Final then we will.

I don't think the players needed to be rested but the youngsters need to be tested. You could say they should be drip fed into the side but that way they aren't being tested. If you just give them a game against a weaker team they are never out of their comfort zone and against a tough side they'll be like rabbits an headlights.

Right now we've given the young players a real good test where they've really had to fight hard. We now know how players react in difficult situations and it's better to find that out as soon as possible and it's better for Shaun Wane to find out how strong some of the fringe players are right now than possibly being forced into it later on and coming unstuck.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:30 pm  

Pure disrespect and very poor coaching..this 2 points lost can mean a lot no matter anyone likes to think...I like most things about Mr Wane but today was his call and his fail...simple as that..Hope he learns VERY quickly from it!!

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:34 pm  

I'm not buying the disrespect line. The team Wane put out there was good enough to go 36-18 up with less than half an hour left. To lose from that position is unforgiveable, no matter who is on the field. The players out there today let their coach down, and I'm sure they know it. Lessons will have been learned by all parties I hope

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:36 pm  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

This defeat isn't going to prevent us from finishing in the top 4 though. Even if we miss out by 2 points this defeat won't be the issue. We know the full strength team is good enough to finish in the top 2 so if they fail to do that the issue will be one that manifests itself over the course of the season. We are good enough to beat the best sides and if we deserve to get to the Grand Final then we will.

I don't think the players needed to be rested but the youngsters need to be tested. You could say they should be drip fed into the side but that way they aren't being tested. If you just give them a game against a weaker team they are never out of their comfort zone and against a tough side they'll be like rabbits an headlights.

Right now we've given the young players a real good test where they've really had to fight hard. We now know how players react in difficult situations and it's better to find that out as soon as possible and it's better for Shaun Wane to find out how strong some of the fringe players are right now than possibly being forced into it later on and coming unstuck.

Well seems that people are taking it for granted we are making top4. And i thought only SW took things for granted. We are a decent side but so are Leeds, Wire, Giants, Catalan and Hull also think Saints will give a push for top 4. No side can be sure of top 4 finish and to let 2 points slip by not playing some of your best players will comeback and bite you. As it did today.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:36 pm  

We needed to win today,end of.

People on here who think we can scrape the top 8 and then win in the play offs are deluded.

It was a special Leeds perfomance last year that did it from 5th and I do not think that will be repeated again anytime soon.

We are throwing the chance of the top 2 away, if Leeds and Cats win their games in hand we go 5th.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:37 pm  

One word Disgraceful.


I hope Longy and Gleeson didn't find out about the team selection pre kick off.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:39 pm  

We aren't going to 'scrape' into the top 8, because we aren't going to rest our best players every week.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:41 pm  

pie eater and proud of it wrote:

We needed to win today,end of.

People on here who think we can scrape the top 8 and then win in the play offs are deluded.

It was a special Leeds perfomance last year that did it from 5th and I do not think that will be repeated again anytime soon.

We are throwing the chance of the top 2 away, if Leeds and Cats win their games in hand we go 5th.

Scrape into the top 8? Are you mental? We'll finish in the top 4 comfortably

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:44 pm  

dirtbag83 wrote:

Scrape into the top 8? Are you mental? We'll finish in the top 4 comfortably

Really.

A good win against leeds and wins against two woeful sides in Bradford and Cas.

Losses to injury depleted Hudds and Widnes.

Not top four form.

[DaveO]

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:46 pm  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

Yes a stronger team would have won but as Wane said after the match he has to test the youngsters and see where they are at and how much they need to improve.

Not like that he doesn't and if he thinks what he did was correct he is has failed to learn a lesson and should just hold his hand up and admit he made a mistake. The hole he has made for himself is already big enough without digging it deeper by saying he was right to do what he did.

We'll take far more out of this game than if we had battered Widnes with a full strength side.

No we won't. Instead of young players being introduced one at a time in an experienced side Wane compounded the problem of supposedly three injures by resting two more senior pros. Result? Instead of youngsters being introduced into the first team line up and learning the ropes alongside the senior pros they play in a team more akin to the U20 side they are used to playing in but do so against SL opposition. I fail to what good comes of that at all. They learn nothing and we lose the game.

As to the top 8 system meaning the result is not important in the grand scheme of things that may well be true but that misses the point. There is palpable anger at being ripped off.

People go to league games to support their team and hopefully see them win. If Wane pulls this stunt again he will start to alienate the fans. Do the club really want it to be that crowds only turn up for big games and the playoffs.