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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:36 am  
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IF he retires and we pay him off, does that then count against the cap?

I get the cap needs to safeguard against false situations created as a backdoor for getting rid of deadwood, but in this instance there's a major player welfare issue.

If paying him off does count against the cap, then it's almost forcing the club to keep trying different things. That's not good for GB and could seriously impact his long term health.

The club need to be able to strike a deal with him that, not only suits both parties financially, but also doesn't impact our cap spend too.


no as the medical insurance pays him off not the club
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:38 am  
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no as the medical insurance pays him off not the club


IF the insurance pay up on a pre existing injury.
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:40 am  
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IF the insurance pay up on a pre existing injury.


course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:00 am  
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course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.


I never said he hasn't got insurance, I just doubt how easy it will be to get a payout on a pre-existing injury. Much like every other type of insurance people get.

Most life insurance policies either refuse cover, or push up the premium to cover even the smallest existing condition. Why would a sports insurer be different, especially seeing the risk of injury is greatly increased?
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:59 am  
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I never said he hasn't got insurance, I just doubt how easy it will be to get a payout on a pre-existing injury. Much like every other type of insurance people get.

Most life insurance policies either refuse cover, or push up the premium to cover even the smallest existing condition. Why would a sports insurer be different, especially seeing the risk of injury is greatly increased?


I know but thats like saying manfredi cant get a payout on his knee if he retired die to it, he was given a new contract with it so would ne not be covered? Dont think sports insurance works like that. Sam Burgess was paid off and he has his shoulder issues for 10 years
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:09 pm  
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course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.


Nope. Not insured for pre existing injuries
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:58 am  
Think you are all jumping the gun. Looked like Wigan are being patient and trying to diagnose the problem properly.
He would have to take voluntary retirement to get him off the books....
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:14 am  
Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:27 am  
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Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World


what proof have you got of this?
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Re: Burgess’ Hip : Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:10 am  
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Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World


Burgess had and passed a medical before he signed for Wigan.
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