Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:20 am  

I got a text last night saying he was refusing to play for Wire so this makes sense.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:29 am  

NSW wrote:

I got a text last night saying he was refusing to play for Wire so this makes sense.

This would make sense given what I was told and his relationship with Powell.

Would be a big boost for us to get him across for the rest of this year and would take us another step closer to catching Saints.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:47 am  

Not disputing he is a good player but refusing to play (if true and l am not disputing it) because you don't like the coach is a bit unprofessional

EW

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:52 am  

Edinburgh Warrior wrote:

Not disputing he is a good player but refusing to play (if true and l am not disputing it) because you don't like the coach is a bit unprofessional

EW

That is my worry is he that type to down tools if he doesnt like what he sees hope he isnt ,class player hope he is a class act.Time will tell I suppose.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:04 am  

Edinburgh Warrior wrote:

Not disputing he is a good player but refusing to play (if true and l am not disputing it) because you don't like the coach is a bit unprofessional

EW

As I mentioned from what I had been told there was a major rift in the camp and due to the fact Cooper is such a dominant figure some of the players backed him over Powell.

I was told from a very good source he was “toxic” which got one poster very upset.

That though doesn’t mean he will be toxic in our environment and both Briers and Wane will know what he is like before signing him.

Powell handled his introduction to the club poorly and the damage was done with some players very early on with rifts formed which could never be fixed.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:55 am  

I hope we can get Cooper in this season and if we can, I think he’ll really add to the side and he could play a pretty big part in the run in. I look at Singleton and Byrne and I’m happy overall with how both have gone this season but at times, the ground they make can be reasonably limited and Cooper is excellent at that. Another option to add to the competition can’t hurt.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:11 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I hope we can get Cooper in this season and if we can, I think he’ll really add to the side and he could play a pretty big part in the run in. I look at Singleton and Byrne and I’m happy overall with how both have gone this season but at times, the ground they make can be reasonably limited and Cooper is excellent at that. Another option to add to the competition can’t hurt.

That's my thinking. TBH I'm worried about centre too, but if KPP can stay fit and likewise Bibby, we might just scrape through.

If Copper comes back, then Singo doesn't get back in the 17 imo. I'm happy with that.

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:26 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

That's my thinking. TBH I'm worried about centre too, but if KPP can stay fit and likewise Bibby, we might just scrape through.

If Copper comes back, then Singo doesn't get back in the 17 imo. I'm happy with that.

Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:55 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).

I guess my issue with Singleton is what he brings, or rather what he doesn't bring to the side.

As our 1st choice and most experienced prop, he should be so much more. I look at him Vs Byrne and he's being outplayed by a lad who's years his junior and arguably 5th choice.

Who out of the two deserves the rub of playing with Copper and the benefits it will bring to their game? The guy who should already be providing that support for guys like Havard, Byrne and potentially Ellis? Or the lad who's had to develop fast because of a lack of real experienced support?

I really do think that, regardless of how good Cooper is, we wouldn't have signed him if Singo could perform as our prop leader. How many props will we have next year 6 + Silva?

Re: Mike Cooper : Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:08 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).

I’ve been critical of Mago but thought he was superb against Saints. Rarely got dominated and some quick play the balls really got us going. His carry before our first try epitomised this, left Roby on the ground and there defensive line was panicked. More of this from him please.

Would love Cooper in now. Been keeping an eye on his Wire stats and he’s close to if it over 100m every game.

Would also be an easier transition for next year if he gets 10 games in this year.