: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:46 pm  

I don't think Goulding is a poor tackler. One on one he his fine.

It's just that IMO he makes a lot of bad decisions with and without the ball.

Smith did miss tackles he should have made last week and they cannot be justified, however Goulding came out of the line twice and left him exposed.

Goulding is still young and hopefully will learn, but as I have said previously I don't think it would be fair on him and Sam Tomkins to have them defending together.

Darrell needs to learn when to come on to help and when to stay in the line.

Re: 19 man squad for Quins : Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:47 pm  

Andy Greg wrote:

http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4552

Richard Mathers, Amos Roberts, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Tim Smith, Thomas Leuluai, Stuart Fielden, Mark Riddell, Iafeta Paleaaesina, Gareth Hock, Phil Bailey, Sean O'Loughlin, Joel Tomkins, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Karl Pryce, Eamon O'Carroll, Sam Tomkins, Shaun Ainscough.

Mathers and Coley should not play for Wigan...so here I go.

1. Roberts
2. Richards
3. Pryce (Should be goulding)
4. Carmont
5. Ainscough
6. S. Tomkins
7. Smith
8. Fielden
9. Leuluai
10. O'Carroll
11. Bailey
12. Hansen
13. O'Loughlin

SB. Hock
SB. J.Tomkins
SB. Feka
SB. Riddel

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:49 pm  

Tim Smith has missed 9 tackles apparently this season, Darrell Goulding 2.

Worst is Gareth Hock with 10 missed tackles.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:55 pm  

Bilko wrote:

Tim Smith has missed 9 tackles apparently this season, Darrell Goulding 2.

Worst is Gareth Hock with 10 missed tackles.

Yeah but I am sure that some people will try and attribute 7 of Smiths Tackles to Goulding to swap the situation around.

Just as an aside do you have any stats of most clean breaks by a Wigan player this season to give an indication of whether Goulding "offers nothing in attack".

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 pm  

I don't like bagging young players, god knows we've let enough go over the years, but why do we defend Goulding so much? The likes of Watkins is a young centre to get excited about.

I just don't think he's up to it, that's it really. He's been on the scene a few years now, ableit still being young, but apart from a few walk over tries I don't get it.

[Pemps]

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:12 pm  

warriorweed wrote: Yeah but I am sure that some people will try and attribute 7 of Smiths Tackles to Goulding to swap the situation around. Just as an aside do you have any stats of most clean breaks by a Wigan player this season to give an indication of whether Goulding "offers nothing in attack". Have a look here. Loads of stats http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2518

warriorweed wrote: Yeah but I am sure that some people will try and attribute 7 of Smiths Tackles to Goulding to swap the situation around. Just as an aside do you have any stats of most clean breaks by a Wigan player this season to give an indication of whether Goulding "offers nothing in attack". Have a look here. Loads of stats http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2518

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:30 pm  

Goulding is rightly dropped. He isn't good enough, but for some reason, ala Higham, he is considered a darling of the fans.

Team should be:

Amos Roberts,
Shaun Ainscough
George Carmont
Phil Bailey
Pat Richards
Sam Tomkins
Tim Smith
Stuart Fielden
Mark Riddell
Eamon O'Carroll
Joel Tomkins
Harrison Hansen
Sean O'Loughlin

Andy Coley
Gareth Hock
Thomas Leuluai
Iafeta Paleaaesina

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:34 pm  

I think the team will be :-

Mathers
Roberts
Carmont
Bailey
Richards
Smith
Lulu
Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll
Hansen
Tomkins
O' Loughlin

Hock
Feka
Coley
Pryce

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:35 pm  

Told you so about Sam being in squad
Lets hope he is given a chance now.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:35 pm  

warriorweed wrote:

snip

There is no way he will drop Ainscough for Mathers. That would be as daft as him not giving Sam Tomkins a chance.