: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:26 pm  

Internationally, Noble selected Harris instead of McGuire which was a monumental error.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:26 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Has Noble stuck with:
O Carroll
J Tomkins
Ainscough

Since they played well for the club this season? Yes.

We all would have dropped Goulding. McClorum was getting more and more game time before his suspension. Prescott was injured.

So give the guy a break, he clearly does value our young lads. I didn't see Mathers anywhere this week, he could have dropped Ainscough for him but he didn't.

Only a complete idiot would have dropped him for Mathers.

Re: Noble Talking Shiite... : Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:27 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

When Long came home from Australia in 2006 Horne wasnt in the tour squad, Burrow was reserve SH. What you on about?

FFS.

Horne played at number 7 in the final match against Australia where we lost 33-10 (or thereabouts). Burrow went on that tour but didnt get a game (which actually further backs up my view on Noble not picking the right players unless forced to)

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:28 pm  

Agreed, and he didn't. And to his and Ainscough credit he's featured in the games since, in the starting 13.

I think there's still alot of plus's to our team under Noble.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:29 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

I think there's still alot of plus's to our team under Noble.

I certainly wouldn't disagree with that.

It seems that a lot of people on here take one criticism as confirmation that you think someone's not fit to burn.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:30 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Which he didn't.

Look at the amount of Wiganers in our squad used this season

Ainscough
J Tomkins
Goulding
S Tomkins
Hock
Lockers
O Carroll
McClorum

Not UK but Wigan lads. And look at there ages, nearly all under 25.

A RL peaks between 25 and 28. He should be playing regular first team by the age of 20. The best younger.

O'Carrol is from Oldham, McILorum from Leeds

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:31 pm  

Defo.

With a win against Bradford, confidence building for Leeds with Sam and Ainscough in the squad people will soon be behind Noble again.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:51 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Defo.

With a win against Bradford, confidence building for Leeds with Sam and Ainscough in the squad people will soon be behind Noble again.

If Wigan do win against Bradford and Leeds not only will they very good wins but we will defiantly have cause for optimism, but we will still be on 6 games played 3 W - 3 L.

People will truly start to get behind Noble (me included) and the pressure will be relieved when we put a run of about five or six straight wins together matched with good performances in those wins. It’s not something he’s managed to do, apart from in his first season, yet and it will be a true marker that we’ve left the inconsistency of the previous two seasons behind.

I personally will be just as gutted as I was after the three loses we’ve had if we go 2 Leeds and Win and then mess up by losing to Salford the week after. In previous seasons that’s what has happened and it’s very worrying.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:09 pm  

I think Noble has given a fair few kids a chance. They ultimately have to be good enough to make that step up when they get a chance. We had a few injuries, Noble thought Ainscough was good enough to play Super League. So far, seems like that trust is justified. I also think J Tomkins has come on a lot under Noble.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:14 pm  

Noble has been at Wigan 3 years and youth development has gone backwards. Joel Tomkins was repesenting and starring for England in 2004. He was outstanding in a troubled Wigan era under Millward. He was then given no opportunities until Noble had no choice.