: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:25 pm  

Just watched the recording of your game last night. Smith missed a few things and you didn't get many if any of the 50-50's but I have to say he was at least 50% better than he was when he reffed our game against HKR. Let's all hope he gets better as the season goes on. Wouldn't it be great if there was consistency with refs. At least then all games would be reffed in the same manner and teams wouldn't need to adjust their game according to who was reffing.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:29 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Just watched the recording of your game last night. Smith missed a few things and you didn't get many if any of the 50-50's but I have to say he was at least 50% better than he was when he reffed our game against HKR. Let's all hope he gets better as the season goes on. Wouldn't it be great if there was consistency with refs. At least then all games would be reffed in the same manner and teams wouldn't need to adjust their game according to who was reffing.

You say that (and it might be true) but don't you think it might have something to do with you having a Saints perspective? I thought Smith couldn't have been much worse last night.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:08 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

If Hock's disallowed try truely wasn't a try according to the rules, then 50% of the tries in SL wouldn't be allowed.

Correct. Ian Smith also allowed Leeds to do exactly the same thing not even a minute later.

Re: Ian Smith : Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:29 pm  

Red Hot Jalapeno wrote:

He was absolutely shocking. No excuses it just wasnt our night and Leeds were on fire but Smith just added the icing on top of a crap night. How many times did Hock have the ball stolen in the first half yet Smith gave knock on? Those sort of things make it impossible to get into the game especially against a team like Leeds who dont need any inviting to beat you.

Leeds always steal the ball against Wigan. They are very clever at doing it. I posted this elsewhere BEFORE the match. Surely refs must be aware of it. Penalties make a big difference and often lead to tries so I will go as far as Wigan might have won if the ball steals had been spotted.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:14 pm  

i think the refs in national league 1 are alot better than these super league refs swap them round for a game see what we get cant do no worse CAN they

The Referee : Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:17 pm  

Anyone else fed up of having their night ruined by the ref?

Re: The Referee : Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:58 pm  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

Anyone else fed up of having their night ruined by the ref?

smith didnt give leeds a pen till the second half. i think wigan were give 2 in the first half.

we have to give the refs a brake. if they are blowing up every set people are fed up! if they let the game run people get fed up. its a lose lose for em.

leeds got their first open play pen around the hour mark.

which to me says you were given more than a far crack by the ref

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 pm  

Big Steve wrote:

I thougt exactly the same about the Leeds 1st and 3rd tries. The ball from Kirke is at least a couple of feet in front of him and Sinfields pass was well forward.

With a better ref it would have been a far better contest, take those two scores away and we are 6-0 down and all to play for. As it was, Leeds are too good a team to play against when you haven't got the ball.

I thought we played reasonably well overall, our defence prioe to the two very well taken 40-20's was excellent. Good skill from Leeds got them in position rather than Wigans failings, and and resulted in them having field position to exploit any mistake or piece of luck - which is what good teams do.

The 2nd half with the same rub of the green we could have been within 6 points of them, so on the whole, although disapointing I thought the performance wasn't as bad as the scoreline.

I admire your outlook on life

However you forget to mention that Leeds started the game in rampant fashion and even if one of those scores had been chalked off, who's saying that in the next possesion Leeds wouldn't have scored again and then gone on to put 60 on you?

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:52 pm  

ian smith was an absolute disgrace....but phil bentham was worse!!

Re: The Referee : Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:15 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

smith didnt give leeds a pen till the second half. i think wigan were give 2 in the first half.

we have to give the refs a brake. if they are blowing up every set people are fed up! if they let the game run people get fed up. its a lose lose for em.

leeds got their first open play pen around the hour mark.

which to me says you were given more than a far crack by the ref

were not tlking just about pens an blowing up mr smith or ganson were talking about getting things RIGHT