Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:00 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

But you don’t call for unity and then in the same breath change the seat colours to one sides. It’s like saying to two kids (and some supporters on both sides have the brains of u5’s) arguing over the tv “come on, share and don’t be falling out but unfortunately Timmy, your sister is having what she wants on from now on”.

I just think it’s a really ill advised move and does nothing to encourage the unity he speaks of. It does the complete opposite and that’s sad from where I sit (somewhere in between both sides).

I do see yours and others points but it’s one of those rare occasions we disagree. I suppose we’ll see the direction this all leads in the coming months

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:12 am  

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Ruddy Duck wrote:

And your last comment is exactly right as that is what it should have been but for Wigan Council making the terrible mistake of siding with Whelan instead of supporting our club in its attempt to obtain a site in Wigan to build a Stadium of our own.

A mistake they did not make with the building of the Leigh Sports Village Stadium when they realised that they had made a big mistake in allowing Whelan to have all his own way.

While other local clubs like St Helens, Warrington and Widnes have their own stadiums with the right capacities, we have a white elephant of a stadium with a too large a capacity, previously owned by a man who now cares so much about Wigan now lives in the West Indies on the profit he made from the sale of the stadium.

If the intention of the new owner to make the Stadium into a Latics Football Stadium by having all the seats blue and White, it will only cause more friction between the rival supporters.


The chickens have sure come home to roost where the mistake of the nighties is concerned.!


p.s. Perhaps the time has come for a compete re-development of the Robin Park Arena and leave the Latic's to their precious white elephant!

Conveniently forgetting that DW actually offered to renovate CP and have Latics as our tenants. It was only for your much adored Fab 4 who essentially laughed it him that he got planning permission for the then called JJB Stadium. After much more financial mismanagement from the Fab 4 and a fabled move to Bolton we begged DW to let us in. So instead of blaming Whelan perhaps try and see that your Fab 4 weren’t so Fab after all.

Widnes is a poor choice. The stadium for one isn’t owned by them but Halton Borough Council. They are also in a poor financial state and have been for some time. Warrington and Saints I give you.

I still don’t see how plastic colour no one has batted an eyelid at for 20years matters and you’ll never convince me otherwise.

As for Robin Park I think I’m in the minority in saying I think that’s a bad idea in redeveloping it. If we’re looking at a stadium (which we’re not) we should be looking at either land where the current building is beyond help or brown belt land to develop.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:50 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

I do see yours and others points but it’s one of those rare occasions we disagree. I suppose we’ll see the direction this all leads in the coming months

I’m probably in a small minority on here in supporting both clubs and I think it’s that fact which makes me a bit disappointed in this move. I want to see everything done to bring them closer together. I suppose I don’t know the facts in reality and for all I know the new Latics guys could’ve said we’re replacing the seats (which is needed) and do you fancy splitting the costs and going red and blue still or do you want to not pay anything towards it and in that case we’ll choose what we want. I doubt there has been that conversation and Lenagan would probably point to the fact that renovations are covered under the rental terms but they’ve the right to do as they please. I just think it’s a dumb move tbh and things like this aren’t helpful.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:52 am  

Whelan had no intention of developing Central Park. He wanted to buy it cheap and then sell it on for a big profit. That was his modus operandi.

I was at that meeting at The Riverside when he started shouting from the back of the room and was then offered an opportunity to come up on stage and debate the sale.

Needless to say he scurried away with his henchmen in tow!!!

As for the colour of the seats it doesn't bother me in the least. I was told about three years ago that the stadium heeded around 5 - 8 Million pounds spending on it.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:57 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

[*]Conveniently forgetting that DW actually offered to renovate CP and have Latics as our tenants. It was only for your much adored Fab 4 who essentially laughed it him that he got planning permission for the then called JJB Stadium. After much more financial mismanagement from the Fab 4 and a fabled move to Bolton we begged DW to let us in. So instead of blaming Whelan perhaps try and see that your Fab 4 weren’t so Fab after all.

Widnes is a poor choice. The stadium for one isn’t owned by them but Halton Borough Council. They are also in a poor financial state and have been for some time. Warrington and Saints I give you.

I still don’t see how plastic colour no one has batted an eyelid at for 20years matters and you’ll never convince me otherwise.

As for Robin Park I think I’m in the minority in saying I think that’s a bad idea in redeveloping it. If we’re looking at a stadium (which we’re not) we should be looking at either land where the current building is beyond help or brown belt land to develop.

All sports clubs have just taken a major financial hit due to crowds not being allowed, then limited capacities, and still not the same number of people coming through the turnstiles now. If memory serves we were operating at a loss before all that happened as well. Spending god knows how many millions on developing a stadium next door to the very good stadium we already have access to just because of a petty squabble with Latics would be mental. Thankfully businessmen make these decisions, not fans.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:17 pm  

So the new Latics owner is changing the colour of the seats from red (which we don't play in) to white (which we do).

Sounds like a closet Wigan RL fan to me.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:24 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

[*]Conveniently forgetting that DW actually offered to renovate CP and have Latics as our tenants. It was only for your much adored Fab 4 who essentially laughed it him that he got planning permission for the then called JJB Stadium. After much more financial mismanagement from the Fab 4 and a fabled move to Bolton we begged DW to let us in. So instead of blaming Whelan perhaps try and see that your Fab 4 weren’t so Fab after all.

Widnes is a poor choice. The stadium for one isn’t owned by them but Halton Borough Council. They are also in a poor financial state and have been for some time. Warrington and Saints I give you.

I still don’t see how plastic colour no one has batted an eyelid at for 20years matters and you’ll never convince me otherwise.

As for Robin Park I think I’m in the minority in saying I think that’s a bad idea in redeveloping it. If we’re looking at a stadium (which we’re not) we should be looking at either land where the current building is beyond help or brown belt land to develop.

warringtons ground was paid for them by Tesco as part of the planning permission, I imagine a fair chunk of Saints was also with its proximity to it, its what councils did to get grounds and social clubs built, Tesco stopped doing this about 5 years ago (I think it was about then)

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:11 pm  

Just been to a presentation from the chief executive and the launch of the new fan engagement programme at the stadium. I urge Mr Lenagan to get his fingers out of his ears and do something to rival what’s being put in place.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:22 pm  

DannyT wrote:

Just been to a presentation from the chief executive and the launch of the new fan engagement programme at the stadium. I urge Mr Lenagan to get his fingers out of his ears and do something to rival what’s being put in place.

I'd actually argue that he's already been there, done that and got burnt/bored of it.

Tbh, I can somewhat understand why IL doesn't do it anymore too. Some of our fans are, at best hard work, and at worst - absolute knuckle dragging morons. Look at the comments on FB, or Twitter and then imagine dealing with that day in, day out for 10 years. Imagine organising a fans forum (like he used to) and having your time wasted by questions about breakfast cereals.

Take the Millwall games as another example. Most reasonable fans will say that it didn't work out, but will be able to grasp the reasons for trying what he did. Some other fans however can't grasp simple ideas.

Fair play to the new latics mon. It's his new shinny toy and he's doing all this stuff. I do wonder where it will all be in 10years time tho.

Re: DW to turn blue : Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:32 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

I'd actually argue that he's already been there, done that and got burnt/bored of it.

Tbh, I can somewhat understand why IL doesn't do it anymore too. Some of our fans are, at best hard work, and at worst - absolute knuckle dragging morons. Look at the comments on FB, or Twitter and then imagine dealing with that day in, day out for 10 years. Imagine organising a fans forum (like he used to) and having your time wasted by questions about breakfast cereals.

Take the Millwall games as another example. Most reasonable fans will say that it didn't work out, but will be able to grasp the reasons for trying what he did. Some other fans however can't grasp simple ideas.

Fair play to the new latics mon. It's his new shinny toy and he's doing all this stuff. I do wonder where it will all be in 10years time tho.

Don’t disagree with a lot of what you said at all. Was just painful to see what is going to be a huge and sustained campaign to capture new and old fans and then I compare that to the lack of energy and drive coming from my other other club. I just want a bit of willing, anything other than the silence we have currently. I should add, it was Radlinski’s equivalent Mal Brannigan who leads on all the club infrastructure who was presenting the vision and plans.