Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:27 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

So are the ref shaggers going to explain how Byrne got sent off and 4 games, but Moylan gets a yellow for a shoulder charge to the head? I know which one of those two shots I'd rather take.

The mitigating factor given was that Field rapidly slipped into it, which did happen. The issue is, that it was a shoulder charge by Moylan so any mitigating factors should have been irrelevant and he should have been shown red.

I think Moylan was actually lucky that Field did slip into it, which is a wild thing to have to say and shows the system as flawed.

Can we stop the silly name calling too by chance? So unnecessary and you can get your point across well enough without it.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:42 am  

Very pleasing performance. Field's season started last night. Attacked the line and was always looking for that gap. Don't know what's been up with him lately but he looked more like Jai Field last night. Everyone performed well, Isa actually attacked really well but I would have still have Nsemba starting over him. Pretty sure Junior can do an 80 minutes. Only critique I have last night is, I think its time Harry handed the kicking tee over to Keighran. Losing unnecessary points in Smith persevering with the kicking duties.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:51 am  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

Very pleasing performance. Field's season started last night. Attacked the line and was always looking for that gap. Don't know what's been up with him lately but he looked more like Jai Field last night. Everyone performed well, Isa actually attacked really well but I would have still have Nsemba starting over him. Pretty sure Junior can do an 80 minutes. Only critique I have last night is, I think its time Harry handed the kicking tee over to Keighran. Losing unnecessary points in Smith persevering with the kicking duties.

Agree with the kicking. I have been an advocate in the past on here for Smith kicking as he has shown in the pass how good he can be, but he seems incapable of maintaining that level for some reason even though he managed a full season of it a couple of years ago.

Time to give Keighran a go.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:56 am  

BoredWiganer wrote:

The mitigating factor given was that Field rapidly slipped into it, which did happen. The issue is, that it was a shoulder charge by Moylan so any mitigating factors should have been irrelevant and he should have been shown red.

I think Moylan was actually lucky that Field did slip into it, which is a wild thing to have to say and shows the system as flawed.

Can we stop the silly name calling too by chance? So unnecessary and you can get your point across well enough without it.

100% agree. I thought Moylan was both lucky and unlucky. Field clearly slipped into the tackle which is the obvious mitigation but at the same time he looked to be going in with the shoulder and not wrapping the arms so it easily could have been deemed a shoulder charge.

Could just as easily been red.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:33 am  

Trainman wrote:

100% agree. I thought Moylan was both lucky and unlucky. Field clearly slipped into the tackle which is the obvious mitigation but at the same time he looked to be going in with the shoulder and not wrapping the arms so it easily could have been deemed a shoulder charge.

Could just as easily been red.

I think the refs used common sense in this case. Contact with head and he didn’t wrap however the speed at which Field fell meant that the time he had to wrap was significantly reduced from what is already milliseconds going into contact.

I was ok with the yellow.

Not a comment on any posters in particular but I do get frustrated by fans saying games gone soft etc and bemoaning the new interpretation of the head contact rules, but then call for red cards as soon as a player from their team gets involved in an innocuous one like the Field Moylan one last night.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:35 am  

A really pleasing performance.
I was worried before the game how we would react after the energy sapping game against Saints. A great response from the whole squad.
Some rest and perfecting our game next week ready for Cas in the CC.
Great to see Hill make his first start for the first team.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:21 am  

jonh wrote:

I think the refs used common sense in this case. Contact with head and he didn’t wrap however the speed at which Field fell meant that the time he had to wrap was significantly reduced from what is already milliseconds going into contact.

I was ok with the yellow.

Not a comment on any posters in particular but I do get frustrated by fans saying games gone soft etc and bemoaning the new interpretation of the head contact rules, but then call for red cards as soon as a player from their team gets involved in an innocuous one like the Field Moylan one last night.

I get frustrated by how far some people will go to defend the refs.

You say the Field one was innocuous but, in regards to impact, the shot to Field was far worse than the shot from Byrne.

You, the refs and the wannabe pretend lawyers can use all your BS buzzwords to justify whatever you want. ATEOTD, it's either an accidental shot to the head or not. Accidents happen in different ways. Both situations were lazy and accidental. Byrne's however resulted in a red + 4 games. It's completely and utterly wrong.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:12 am  

jonh wrote:

I think the refs used common sense in this case. Contact with head and he didn’t wrap however the speed at which Field fell meant that the time he had to wrap was significantly reduced from what is already milliseconds going into contact.

I was ok with the yellow.

Not a comment on any posters in particular but I do get frustrated by fans saying games gone soft etc and bemoaning the new interpretation of the head contact rules, but then call for red cards as soon as a player from their team gets involved in an innocuous one like the Field Moylan one last night.

I think the ruling lacks consistency and that’s what frustrates players and fans alike. Our game is incredibly fast and it is impossible for a player to alter his tackling technique in a millisecond, or pull out of a tackle (Miski on O’Brien shown In real time is a fair challenge, slowed down to the nth degree it can be adjudged as ‘slightly’ late). Will Moylan and Lam be sat in the stands next week? We shall have to wait and see but if the MRP are consistent they will have to keep Byrne and Vaughan company.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:16 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

A really pleasing performance.
I was worried before the game how we would react after the energy sapping game against Saints. A great response from the whole squad.
Some rest and perfecting our game next week ready for Cas in the CC.
Great to see Hill make his first start for the first team.

Hill’s footwork at the line is fantastic. I am surprised that it has taken so long for him to get a start as he is a big favourite of the coach.

Re: Leigh (a) : Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:52 am  

Zig wrote:

Hill’s footwork at the line is fantastic. I am surprised that it has taken so long for him to get a start as he is a big favourite of the coach.

He seems to have put on quite a bit of muscle during preseason and he looks a lot stronger.
He’s from good stock and that with Peet’s guidance I can see him as a regular in the starting 17 from next season irrespective of who is available.
I was really pleased when we signed Eseh but Hill looks the better prospect of the two at the moment but obviously Eseh’s injury may be preventing him showing how he his developing.
With Havard, Hill and Eseh we have some incredible potential in the front row.